COVID & AFL 2021

[old dee 23,791]

Just I case I had any confidence left in government advice it was destroyed this morning by two items in the media.

one study from the UK says that you are better off having a second dose of the Astra vaccine than having a second of the Pfizer vaccine. And a study from Germany which says the reverse.

Now I know that this is all very new and they are only doing their studies on the run but who do you believe? 
It might be just easier to hibernate somewhere for the next two years till we know. 

[Diamond_Jim 12,588]

52 minutes ago, old dee said:

Adelaide passed their latest one on to us DJ. 

Kappa man aka Woolert was from Adelaide and he kicked us off

the Delta strain was all ours OD and surprise sursprise they lost the HQ CCTV footage

 

45 minutes ago, old dee said:

Just I case I had any confidence left in government advice it was destroyed this morning by two items in the media.

one study from the UK says that you are better off having a second dose of the Astra vaccine than having a second of the Pfizer vaccine. And a study from Germany which says the reverse.

Now I know that this is all very new and they are only doing their studies on the run but who do you believe? 
It might be just easier to hibernate somewhere for the next two years till we know. 

Don't worry mate by the time the Feds ever let us out of this country you will have had a booster and maybe even two.

Some States in Canada have also scrapped AZ for the second dose but mainly because they have so much Moderna etc

Reading the other day that many of the older Singaporeans were queing up to get the China vax instead of Pfizer because they trusted Chinese traditional medicines. My mates in  Thailand are pushing for AZ in front of Sinovac and in Malaysia people are taking anything they can get their hands on.

China hits a billion doses in the local arms in the next day or so

[bing181 9,238]

On 6/18/2021 at 12:49 AM, ManDee said:

3. The UK has one of the highest immunisation rates in the world and are extending their lockdown.

Not amongst the young, who remain mostly unvaccinated - and where the spread is coming from.

[bing181 9,238]

Happily AZ vaxxed here. Would do it again without hesitation.

[bing181 9,238]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

one study from the UK says that you are better off having a second dose of the Astra vaccine than having a second of the Pfizer vaccine. And a study from Germany which says the reverse.

Now I know that this is all very new and they are only doing their studies on the run but who do you believe? 

All current studies are showing improved immunity through mixing vaccine types. I believe that the UK study you're referring to was examining safety, especially around TTS (thrombosis), where getting a second AZ dose doesn't increase risk, mainly because TTS only occurs on first doses. i.e., if you didn't get it first time round, you won't get it on the second.

 

[old dee 23,791]

1 hour ago, bing181 said:

All current studies are showing improved immunity through mixing vaccine types. I believe that the UK study you're referring to was examining safety, especially around TTS (thrombosis), where getting a second AZ dose doesn't increase risk, mainly because TTS only occurs on first doses. i.e., if you didn't get it first time round, you won't get it on the second.

 

That's not the way I read it bing but I will bow to your superior knowledge. I have had Astra and waiting impatiently for second one. It seems to me that what the experts don't know is in front of what they do know.

Edited June 19, 2021 by old dee

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,833]

Sounds like it’s not a question of whether crowds will be allowed in Melbourne next weekend, but a question of how many?

Really hoping it’s 50%.

[old dee 23,791]

2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Sounds like it’s not a question of whether crowds will be allowed in Melbourne next weekend, but a question of how many?

Really hoping it’s 50%.

It’s a Essendrug home game I hope it’s less. 

[titan_uranus 25,020]

4 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Sounds like it’s not a question of whether crowds will be allowed in Melbourne next weekend, but a question of how many?

Really hoping it’s 50%.

Agreed.

1 hour ago, old dee said:

It’s a Essendrug home game I hope it’s less. 

Screw that old dee. I want to go to the game. I want to see my team play. I don't care if that means Essendon makes money. I've spent too long with my side being rubbish: we're half-decent this year and I want to see them as much as I can.

[old dee 23,791]

3 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Agreed.

Screw that old dee. I want to go to the game. I want to see my team play. I don't care if that means Essendon makes money. I've spent too long with my side being rubbish: we're half-decent this year and I want to see them as much as I can.

It was 50% joking TU. More than happy for you to get in and wave your scarf. 

[old dee 23,791]

On 6/19/2021 at 7:36 AM, Better days ahead said:

The Donald wouldn’t be the most trustworthy source. I suggest independent verification before you neck that white king Bitters  

Is it worse than metho?

[Guest]

No new cases for Vic today. 
Fingers crossed for (decent sized) crowds next weekend. ??

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,833]

30% crowds next week is the latest goss according to Jon Ralph.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,219]

4 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

30% crowds next week is the latest goss according to Jon Ralph.

Why 30%? Just make it 50% you idiots

[Demonland 72,193]

 

[Demonland 72,193]

 

[Kent 2,909]

2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Why 30%? Just make it 50% you idiots

There is no formulae They just make it up!! its a joke!

[old dee 23,791]

12 minutes ago, Kent said:

There is no formulae They just make it up!! its a joke!

It is a joke when the 30% gets jammed into one area. 

Edited June 20, 2021 by old dee

[Demonland 72,193]

 

[Jaded No More 68,915]

Let’s have 30,000 people at the footy and make them all sit in one single bay. Two to a seat if possible. Let’s not allow 50,000 people and spread them out so there is a 2 seat gap between each group or family attending together. Because #logic

[titan_uranus 25,020]

Look to be fair it's not only the seating that's the concern with 30% vs 50%. It's the toilets, entrances/exits, bars, kiosks, the trains/trams to the ground, etc.

But yes, it's a bit odd that they don't space people out a bit more.

[Jaded No More 68,915]

14 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Look to be fair it's not only the seating that's the concern with 30% vs 50%. It's the toilets, entrances/exits, bars, kiosks, the trains/trams to the ground, etc.

But yes, it's a bit odd that they don't space people out a bit more.

Yeah I get it completely. I just don’t get why they bang on about social distancing but they don’t distance people in seating areas. 
More bays open, less people using the same exists, toilets and bars too. 
I guess it’s a money thing for the AFL. Staffing of more bays for small crowds is not profitable. 

[Kent 2,909]

8 hours ago, Jaded said:

Yeah I get it completely. I just don’t get why they bang on about social distancing but they don’t distance people in seating areas. 
More bays open, less people using the same exists, toilets and bars too. 
I guess it’s a money thing for the AFL. Staffing of more bays for small crowds is not profitable. 

Really ? Who would have thought that money influenced the AFL?

 

[binman 42,972]

43 minutes ago, Kent said:

Really ? Who would have thought that money influenced the AFL?

 

Because money doesn't influence any other organisations in the country, particularly those bleeding money....

[Kent 2,909]

4 minutes ago, binman said:

Because money doesn't influence any other organisations in the country, particularly those bleeding money....

I was talking about the tradeoff Money verses risk of Covid transmission mate !

Of course other orgs are influenced