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14 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I would suggest one or two of those AA's were 'gifts' and Rance has only one 'picture hook'/premiership medal. 

Don't care about the AA's but would be very happy for Jake to surpass Rance's medal count. 

Plenty of time for Jake to do that.

Hi LH. I don't care about the AA's either. What's the sense in being named in a team that doesn't play anyone ? Not sure what you mean by the picture hook though. Rance is the 'author' (that can't be the right word) of three children's picture books. Rabbit's Hop, Monkey's Tail and Tiger's Roar. Although the last one could be an official Richmond season review for their cognitively challenged fan base.

 
2 minutes ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Hi LH. I don't care about the AA's either. What's the sense in being named in a team that doesn't play anyone ? Not sure what you mean by the picture hook though. Rance is the 'author' (that can't be the right word) of three children's picture books. Rabbit's Hop, Monkey's Tail and Tiger's Roar. Although the last one could be an official Richmond season review for their cognitively challenged fan base.

My apology.  I didn't know he had written 'picture books' so thought it was a vague reference to premiership medals/GF photos.  LOL amazing what we can convince ourselves of when something doesn't 'make sense'.

I think we are on the same page - no pun intended!

15 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I always thought Rance was overrated. He was certainly ordinary one on one

Commentators always got a stiff one over Rance

He was good, but not awesome in my eyes

Lever has been outstanding this year

6 games in....

Same for me, WYL. Rance was a very good backman and is better than Lever, but I don't have him in my best 10 full backs or centre-half backs.

Scarlett, Hardeman, Southby, Langford, Mew, Dench etc... - there are a lot of people way ahead of Rance. 

And strangely enough, Rance really struggled on Jesse Hogan. 

Lever is a very good reader of the play, a great team backman, very courageous, and a natural leader (our next captain?) but can get found out one-on-one. 

With each at their best, probably have to take Rance at this stage, although Lever is still relatively young. 

 
3 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I would suggest one or two of those AA's were 'gifts' and Rance has only one 'picture hook'/premiership medal. 

Don't care about the AA's but would be very happy for Jake to surpass Rance's medal count. 

Plenty of time for Jake to do that.

Are you suggesting that an AA selection panel consisting of Kevin Bartlett, Matthew Richardson and Danny Frawley showed any hint of Richmond bias? No. I won’t hear of it.


On 4/30/2021 at 3:05 PM, The Swimming Dee said:

But, but, but...we paid two first rounders for him remember.

I never understood the argument we paid too much. He was always going to star for us and part of the timing for him to hit this form was due to our system not allowing him to work to his strengths. Tomlinson has been a key to this

We really only paid equivalent of pick 8.

2017 pick 10, 2018 picks 19 and 67

For

Jake Lever, 2017 pick 35 and 2018 pick 47.

 

Or think of it like "pick 19 for pick 35 and 67, and Lever for pick 10".

 

7 hours ago, PaulRB said:

Both Lever and Rance are/were beneficiaries of good defensive structures that make their success almost inevitable. 
The number of times the opposition pop it up for Lever to easily intercept would be embarrassing for them, if it wasn’t a deliberate result of us executing our game plan. 
Both great players, but Rance was a prat... so Lever by a mile. 

I actually think that Lever is an outstanding reader of the play.

Sitting up high at the G, it is amazing how many times Lever leaves his man well before it is kicked, to run 35 m, and end up making the spoil.

He also directs a lot of the traffic and positioning down back.

7 hours ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Same for me, WYL. Rance was a very good backman and is better than Lever, but I don't have him in my best 10 full backs or centre-half backs.

Scarlett, Hardeman, Southby, Langford, Mew, Dench etc... - there are a lot of people way ahead of Rance. 

And strangely enough, Rance really struggled on Jesse Hogan. 

Lever is a very good reader of the play, a great team backman, very courageous, and a natural leader (our next captain?) but can get found out one-on-one. 

With each at their best, probably have to take Rance at this stage, although Lever is still relatively young. 

Quite happy with Lever thanks. Never rated Rance nearly as much as the “experts”

 
4 hours ago, deanox said:

We really only paid equivalent of pick 8.

2017 pick 10, 2018 picks 19 and 67

For

Jake Lever, 2017 pick 35 and 2018 pick 47.

 

Or think of it like "pick 19 for pick 35 and 67, and Lever for pick 10".

 

Yeah I know. The simplified trade argument especially concerning Lever has just annoyed me so much in the past...he is a gun!

12 minutes ago, The Swimming Dee said:

Yeah I know. The simplified trade argument especially concerning Lever has just annoyed me so much in the past...he is a gun!

Carlton took Lachie O'Brien (pick 10) and Liam Stocker (pick 19) after Adelaide handed them off as part of the Bryce Gibbs trade.

 

We got Petty (pick 35), and traded the 47 (with a pick 36) for 27, which got us Sparrow.

 

So it's almost:

Lever, Petty, Sparrow

For 

Bryce Gibbs, pick 35, pick 67!


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