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We are 16th for inside 50 rate from kick ins: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-champion-data-index-kick-in-record-stats-kick-ladder-jake-lloyd-jack-ziebell/news-story/6d73493dbc067eea06db75fcd5d3e2f5. Sitting 4-0 means it's probably not that big a deal, but would be a stat that would be nice if we could improve on (we are probably more of a forward half pressure/turnover score team anyway and so far most teams haven't scored much against us anyway).

1. Sydney Swans: 37.3%

2. Geelong Cats: 31.4%

3. North Melbourne: 29.4%

4. Port Adelaide: 27.5%

5. Fremantle: 27.5%

6. Gold Coast Suns: 25.5%

7. Hawthorn: 25.5%

8. West Coast Eagles: 23.5%

9. GWS Giants: 21.6%

10. Adelaide Crows: 21.6%

11. St Kilda: 19.6%

12. Essendon: 17.6%

13. Carlton: 17.6%

14. Western Bulldogs: 17.6%

15. Brisbane Lions: 13.7%

16. Melbourne: 13.7%

17. Collingwood: 11.8%

18. Richmond: 7.8%

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The fact that we have conceded only 25 behinds which averages out to just over 6 a game kind of waters down the value of this statistic. In contrast the Swans and Geelong have conceded 50 each. We don’t have enough opportunities on the board for a meaningful comparison. 
We also have only conceded 39 goals for a total of only 64 scoring shots against us at an average of 16 a game. The opposition only score 4 times a quarter. Very impressive. The Bulldogs have conceded 68 scoring shots.

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2 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

Richmond are in 18th spot , doggies 14th, North 3rd not worried about this meaningless stat

Exactly. I'd go one step further and point out that the author has created a story which doesn't even pass scrutiny. It's utter tosh. 

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Hard to draw anything from this statistic as it is highly dependent on game style and involves trade-offs. The most important thing is not conceding scores from kick-ins, which the eye test says we are doing well. Moving the ball quickly from defence through the corridor will increase the rate of inside 50's from kick-ins, but also results in a higher risk of conceding goals from turnovers. 

Our strength lies in our contested game, so it makes much more sense to force a stoppage on the flank/ wing rather than take risks through the corridor coming out of defence.

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The stat would be more meaningful if it showed scores from kick ins. 

eg if it was '# of scoring shots/kick-in'  I'm guessing we would rank quite highly.  We have been very good at end to end movement but we often kick points so '# of scoring shots/kick ins' is a more meaningful stat.

 

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11 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The stat would be more meaningful if it showed scores from kick ins. 

eg if it was '# of scoring shots/kick-in'  I'm guessing we would rank quite highly.  We have been very good at end to end movement but we often kick points so '# of scoring shots/kick ins' is a more meaningful stat.

 

correct

the end to end goal is one of the best risk/reward transitions in the game.

We have the perfect team with our talls and Pickett to take advantage of the process.

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18 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The stat would be more meaningful if it showed scores from kick ins. 

eg if it was '# of scoring shots/kick-in'  I'm guessing we would rank quite highly.  We have been very good at end to end movement but we often kick points so '# of scoring shots/kick ins' is a more meaningful stat.

 

I expect that we'd be very high in goals from rebound 50's too - most of the time it's not getting past that 50/40 metre mark thanks to Lever and Co.

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Who gives a rats about scores from kick ins. It's just like scores from turnovers, in that they should never score and we should never turn it over.

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