Jump to content

Featured Replies

Posted

We are 16th for inside 50 rate from kick ins: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-champion-data-index-kick-in-record-stats-kick-ladder-jake-lloyd-jack-ziebell/news-story/6d73493dbc067eea06db75fcd5d3e2f5. Sitting 4-0 means it's probably not that big a deal, but would be a stat that would be nice if we could improve on (we are probably more of a forward half pressure/turnover score team anyway and so far most teams haven't scored much against us anyway).

1. Sydney Swans: 37.3%

2. Geelong Cats: 31.4%

3. North Melbourne: 29.4%

4. Port Adelaide: 27.5%

5. Fremantle: 27.5%

6. Gold Coast Suns: 25.5%

7. Hawthorn: 25.5%

8. West Coast Eagles: 23.5%

9. GWS Giants: 21.6%

10. Adelaide Crows: 21.6%

11. St Kilda: 19.6%

12. Essendon: 17.6%

13. Carlton: 17.6%

14. Western Bulldogs: 17.6%

15. Brisbane Lions: 13.7%

16. Melbourne: 13.7%

17. Collingwood: 11.8%

18. Richmond: 7.8%

 

surprises me as our kick outs have definitely improved this season.

Scope for improvement as with several other areas... a good thing

The fact that we have conceded only 25 behinds which averages out to just over 6 a game kind of waters down the value of this statistic. In contrast the Swans and Geelong have conceded 50 each. We don’t have enough opportunities on the board for a meaningful comparison. 
We also have only conceded 39 goals for a total of only 64 scoring shots against us at an average of 16 a game. The opposition only score 4 times a quarter. Very impressive. The Bulldogs have conceded 68 scoring shots.

Edited by John Crow Batty

 

Richmond are in 18th spot , doggies 14th, North 3rd not worried about this meaningless stat

Edited by Bates Mate

2 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

Richmond are in 18th spot , doggies 14th, North 3rd not worried about this meaningless stat

Exactly. I'd go one step further and point out that the author has created a story which doesn't even pass scrutiny. It's utter tosh. 


Hard to draw anything from this statistic as it is highly dependent on game style and involves trade-offs. The most important thing is not conceding scores from kick-ins, which the eye test says we are doing well. Moving the ball quickly from defence through the corridor will increase the rate of inside 50's from kick-ins, but also results in a higher risk of conceding goals from turnovers. 

Our strength lies in our contested game, so it makes much more sense to force a stoppage on the flank/ wing rather than take risks through the corridor coming out of defence.

The stat would be more meaningful if it showed scores from kick ins. 

eg if it was '# of scoring shots/kick-in'  I'm guessing we would rank quite highly.  We have been very good at end to end movement but we often kick points so '# of scoring shots/kick ins' is a more meaningful stat.

 

11 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The stat would be more meaningful if it showed scores from kick ins. 

eg if it was '# of scoring shots/kick-in'  I'm guessing we would rank quite highly.  We have been very good at end to end movement but we often kick points so '# of scoring shots/kick ins' is a more meaningful stat.

 

correct

the end to end goal is one of the best risk/reward transitions in the game.

We have the perfect team with our talls and Pickett to take advantage of the process.

 
18 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The stat would be more meaningful if it showed scores from kick ins. 

eg if it was '# of scoring shots/kick-in'  I'm guessing we would rank quite highly.  We have been very good at end to end movement but we often kick points so '# of scoring shots/kick ins' is a more meaningful stat.

 

I expect that we'd be very high in goals from rebound 50's too - most of the time it's not getting past that 50/40 metre mark thanks to Lever and Co.

Who gives a rats about scores from kick ins. It's just like scores from turnovers, in that they should never score and we should never turn it over.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Carlton

    Good evening, Demon fans and welcome back to the Demonland Podcast ... it’s time to discuss this week’s game against the Blues. Will the Demons celebrate Clayton Oliver’s 200th game with a victory? We have a number of callers waiting on line … Leopold Bloom: Carlton and Melbourne are both out of finals contention with six wins and eleven losses, and are undoubtedly the two most underwhelming and disappointing teams of 2025. Both had high expectations at the start of participating and advancing deep into the finals, but instead, they have consistently underperformed and disappointed themselves and their supporters throughout the year. However, I am inclined to give the Demons the benefit of the doubt, as they have made some progress in addressing their issues after a disastrous start. In contrast, the Blues are struggling across the board and do not appear to be making any notable improvements. They are regressing, and a significant loss is looming on Saturday night. Max Gawn in the ruck will be huge and the Demon midfield have a point to prove after lowering their colours in so many close calls.

    • 0 replies
  • REPORT: North Melbourne

    I suppose that I should apologise for the title of this piece, but the temptation to go with it was far too great. The memory of how North Melbourne tore Melbourne apart at the seams earlier in the season and the way in which it set the scene for the club’s demise so early in the piece has been weighing heavily upon all of us. This game was a must-win from the club’s perspective, and the team’s response was overwhelming. The 36 point win over Alastair Clarkson’s Kangaroos at the MCG on Sunday was indeed — roovenge of the highest order!

    • 4 replies
  • CASEY: Werribee

    The Casey Demons remain in contention for a VFL finals berth following a comprehensive 76-point victory over the Werribee Tigers at Whitten Oval last night. The caveat to the performance is that the once mighty Tigers have been raided of many key players and are now a shadow of the premiership-winning team from last season. The team suffered a blow before the game when veteran Tom McDonald was withdrawn for senior duty to cover for Steven May who is ill.  However, after conceding the first goal of the game, Casey was dominant from ten minutes in until the very end and despite some early errors and inaccuracy, they managed to warm to the task of dismantling the Tigers with precision, particularly after half time when the nominally home side provided them with minimal resistance.

    • 0 replies
  • PREGAME: Carlton

    The Demons return to the MCG as the the visiting team on Saturday night to take on the Blues who are under siege after 4 straight losses. Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Thumb Down
      • Like
    • 169 replies
  • PODCAST: North Melbourne

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 14th July @ 8:00pm. Join Binman & I as we dissect the Dees glorious win over the Kangaroos at the MCG.
    Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
    Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

    • 29 replies
  • POSTGAME: North Melbourne

    The Demons are finally back at the MCG and finally back on the winners list as they continually chipped away at a spirited Kangaroos side eventually breaking their backs and opening the floodgates to run out winners by 6 goals.

      • Like
    • 253 replies