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[Parmalove 91]

Hearing possible Hannan and pick 23 for pick 14 in return and some later pick swaps or future pick swaps

Edited November 5, 2020 by Parmalove

[Lord Travis 10,763]

1 minute ago, Parmalove said:

Hearing possible Hannan and pick 23 for pick 14 in return

If that’s true then it’s us bending someone else over for once!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

6 minutes ago, Parmalove said:

Hearing possible Hannan and pick 23 for pick 14 in return and some later pick swaps or future pick swaps

Haven't heard this one specifically, but this is definitely in line with what people are saying we'll try to do.

[TRIGON 4,790]

21 minutes ago, Parmalove said:

Hearing possible Hannan and pick 23 for pick 14 in return and some later pick swaps or future pick swaps

Connected with the expected bidding on Jamarra Ugle-Hagan?

[whatwhat say what 22,948]

dogs want out of this draft; filth want out of next

there's two first-rounders that we should be targeting if possible

[TRIGON 4,790]

1 hour ago, Lord Travis said:

If that’s true then it’s us bending someone else over for once!

Using the AFL Draft Points Index as guide:

• Pick 14 = 1,161 Points
• Pick 25 = 756 Points
• 405 points differential equates to ~ pick 41

That doesn't seem unreasonable for a player the Dogs have targeted.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

On 11/4/2020 at 12:48 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

Trading out.
Trump. 

Trading in. 
Biden - 4 year contract.  Risky contract length given age and declining performance.  Have young Harris in the squad and may be required to step up in 2 years. 

Young Harris could be required to step up a lot earlier than 2 years. 
Sleepy Joe will get torn to shreds

[DeeSpencer 26,083]

1 minute ago, TRIGON said:

Using the AFL Draft Points Index as guide:

• Pick 14 = 1,161 Points
• Pick 25 = 756 Points
• 405 points differential equates to ~ pick 41

That doesn't seem unreasonable for a player the Dogs have targeted.

Hannan’s not worth that and the pick scale always undersells the value of first round picks. We’ll have to add more to get that deal done 

[TRIGON 4,790]

Just now, DeeSpencer said:

Hannan’s not worth that and the pick scale always undersells the value of first round picks. We’ll have to add more to get that deal done 

The Dogs are the party trying to get the deal done.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Personally I would have thought we'd have it high up the list, but going by Mahoney's comments yesterday it doesn't seem like the club feels the same way. Bit baffled by that tbh. Phillips might be a chance, but that's me guessing, not rumour etc. Pies have a bit going on obviously, and I still think they may consider TMac but are holding off for now with a few better options still potentially in play for them.

Clubs still don’t know List sizes yet!!

It is ridiculous 

Wake up Dill...Work to be done 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Clubs still don’t know List sizes yet!!

It is ridiculous 

Wake up Dill...Work to be done 

Bizarre, isn't it?

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

Just now, Lord Nev said:

Bizarre, isn't it?

It should have been set in stone before Trade Period started. 
We have no reference point. I hope Bartlett and others are furious 

How can any trading be done without a template??

[Lord Nev 13,512]

8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It should have been set in stone before Trade Period started. 
We have no reference point. I hope Bartlett and others are furious 

How can any trading be done without a template??

Hypothetical: Clubs may have more of an idea of what's happening than what has been reported in the media. Mahoney, for all his faults, is quite often ahead of the curve with trading/drafting changes. What if we're finding a way to get ourselves 2 higher picks because the AFL will reduce the 3 draftees minimum rule?

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

Wrong thread

Edited November 5, 2020 by Pickett2Jackson

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Hypothetical: Clubs may have more of an idea of what's happening than what has been reported in the media. Mahoney, for all his faults, is quite often ahead of the curve with trading/drafting changes. What if we're finding a way to get ourselves 2 higher picks because the AFL will reduce the 3 draftees minimum rule?

But that is not the point. A multi million $$ operation shouldn’t have to deal in those circumstances. It is a necessity for all clubs to know how many players can be employed, before trading and dealing for those players. 
that said I think Josh is a pretty good Poker Player
 

[Lord Nev 13,512]

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

But that is not the point. A multi million $$ operation shouldn’t have to deal in those circumstances. It is a necessity for all clubs to know how many players can be employed, before trading and dealing for those players. 
that said I think Josh is a pretty good Poker Player
 

I know mate. I wasn't arguing your point, I was bringing up something else.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

4 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

I know mate. I wasn't arguing your point, I was bringing up something else.

I know and if Josh is able to haggle up the order good on him

I am just tired of the AFL picking and choosing what they do

They can change a rule within hours, but we still don’t know list numbers!!

[Lord Nev 13,512]

2 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I know and if Josh is able to haggle up the order good on him

I am just tired of the AFL picking and choosing what they do

They can change a rule within hours, but we still don’t know list numbers!!

TBF it could be that the AFLPA are making it difficult for them. They're in negotiations with them.

[Sir Why You Little 37,134]

1 minute ago, Lord Nev said:

TBF it could be that the AFLPA are making it difficult for them. They're in negotiations with them.

Quite possibly, but Trade weeks should have been delayed until a decision was made

i bet everything is being held up because List Managers are nervous. The AFL haven’t even made a statement. 
Are they all still tanning up in Noosa??

[Grimes Times 1,278]

3 hours ago, TRIGON said:

Using the AFL Draft Points Index as guide:

• Pick 14 = 1,161 Points
• Pick 25 = 756 Points
• 405 points differential equates to ~ pick 41

That doesn't seem unreasonable for a player the Dogs have targeted.

14 and Pruess for 10

Frost + Pruess + Hannan = 10

Edited November 5, 2020 by Grimes Times

[Pickett2Jackson 3,904]

4 hours ago, Parmalove said:

Hearing possible Hannan and pick 23 for pick 14 in return and some later pick swaps or future pick swaps

No way we will move up to pick 14 using Mitch Hannan!   The Bulldogs fans would burn that place down

[Males 578]

29 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

No way we will move up to pick 14 using Mitch Hannan!   The Bulldogs fans would burn that place down

I don’t think their fans will, Bulldogs will have to use pick 14 and another pick or 2 to match a bid on Ugle-Hagan anyway.
 

Edit: Possible point scenarios are being talked about on the Hannan trade thread. ?

Edited November 5, 2020 by Males

[TRIGON 4,790]

27 minutes ago, Grimes Times said:

14 and Pruess for 10

Frost + Pruess + Hannan = 10

That would mean we'd actually achieved the kind of 'bistro-math' / 'multiple mid-tier players packaged and converted into a top 10 pick' that many Demonland posters have often dreamed of.

[TRIGON 4,790]

35 minutes ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

No way we will move up to pick 14 using Mitch Hannan!   The Bulldogs fans would burn that place down

A triple win for them, Ugle-Hagan, Hannan, and the Insurance payout.

[Grimes Times 1,278]

9 minutes ago, Males said:

I don’t think their fans will, Bulldogs will have to use pick 14 and another pick or 2 to match a bid on Ugle-Hagan anyway.
 

Edit: Possible point scenarios are being talked about on the Hannan trade thread. ?

Dunkley has just formally requested a trade which if the dog do a trade with ess they will get another 1 maybe 2 first round picks which would mean I think they would be even more happy to except the above trade.