Interested on people's thoughts on slection "mistakes" and a win against a top 8 team.

For what it's worth I agreed with the frustration with our selection pre game on terms of pace yet here we stand with a win. 

How much of this game of ours is skill? How much is endeavor? How much is structure?

I watched a fantastic video from Veritasium about luck that really makes one question success in general.

Can't wait for Joeboy's review and the changes thread.

16 minutes ago, Josh said:

I watched a fantastic video from Veritasium about luck that really makes one question success in general.

Thumbs up for quality Youtube viewing. As for luck tonight, 3 sitters missed by the saints in the first half and Trac's kick bouncing at right angles to a goal is the luck we needed

10 hours ago, Josh said:

 

I watched a fantastic video from Veritasium about luck that really makes one question success in general

Thanks for referring to that, Josh.  I tracked it down and thoroughly enjoyed it. 

2 hours ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Thanks for referring to that, Josh.  I tracked it down and thoroughly enjoyed it. 

No problem, Vsauce is another fantastic YouTube channel. And depending on your interests numberphile and 3 blue 1 brown are also amazing

How about the luck on the leg break on Trac's last goal - wowee.

To elaborate on your 3 topics Josh, I think these are all factors that can't really be measured by stats besides skill execution

Endeavour - the attitude the player brings and how the player carries themselves during the game ("turning up to play")
Confidence - the self belief the player has in his ability and the team
Skill execution - Hitting targets
Decision making - knowing when to go, stop and who to pass too
Structure - Defence and ability to transition between offence
Direct Matchups - knowing when you have to make an impact or when to impact your direct opponent
Injuries/Luck/footy Gods - just the crazy [censored] that happens in a game
 

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24 minutes ago, FritschyBusiness said:

How about the luck on the leg break on Trac's last goal - wowee.

To elaborate on your 3 topics Josh, I think these are all factors that can't really be measured by stats besides skill execution

Endeavour - the attitude the player brings and how the player carries themselves during the game ("turning up to play")
Confidence - the self belief the player has in his ability and the team
Skill execution - Hitting targets
Decision making - knowing when to go, stop and who to pass too
Structure - Defence and ability to transition between offence
Direct Matchups - knowing when you have to make an impact or when to impact your direct opponent
Injuries/Luck/footy Gods - just the crazy [censored] that happens in a game
 

if we are talking about the good luck on tracc's leg break goal (or was it an off break), what about the bad luck of tracc not being paid the mark? 

58 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

if we are talking about the good luck on tracc's leg break goal (or was it an off break), what about the bad luck of tracc not being paid the mark? 

I thought his opponent got a touch on it initially live so I can see why the umpire missed it at the time.

You are very right, luck goes both ways.

We won despite the questionable selection. Of the ins only Gawn and Rivers strongly justified their selection. Gawn is obvious and we had all been calling for Rivers to come in to allow Harmes to move up the ground. Brown and wagner were ok. Jones was disappointing, as was Omac (but I do think May and lever play better with him in the team).

Yep good to see that our supporters know as much about team selection as the blessed Media does.....

Love Veritasium vids! This one didn't disappoint either.

We won the game because we shut down areas where St.Kilda move/run the ball. We gutted out the last quarter winning crucial contests.

7 hours ago, Josh said:

No problem, Vsauce is another fantastic YouTube channel. And depending on your interests numberphile and 3 blue 1 brown are also amazing

Thanks Josh.  I'll check them out.

20 hours ago, Josh said:

 

For what it's worth I agreed with the frustration with our selection pre game on terms of pace yet here we stand with a win. 

 

We stand with a win thanks to the brilliance of May and Trac.

Team selection was deplorable and made things a lot harder than they should have been.

Team selection again pathetic this week,.  Who the [censored] is on the selection panel?  They all need to go.

Wagner spargo anb oscar mcdonald Smith Jones are all not afl standard. Jones is getting charity games