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53 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Will Ross be good replacement selection for Goodwin?

Ross Lyon stated that he asked Craig Kelly (then manager), before leaving the Saints, "Are Melbourne interested in me?".

Kelly basically said no one was, which was an alleged lie, as Freo had already spoken to Lyon directly.

Interesting that Ross would have jumped ship to Melbourne in 2011/12 had we the balls and brains.  Would have avoided the Neeld Fiasco.  Would have been cheaper than Roos, but basically a cardboard cut-out.

 

Just another example of how the club's process was absolute tish, and we got what we deserved basically.

 

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    7 minutes ago, TGR said:

    Ross Lyon stated that he asked Craig Kelly (then manager), before leaving the Saints, "Are Melbourne interested in me?".

    Kelly basically said no one was, which was an alleged lie, as Freo had already spoken to Lyon directly.

    Interesting that Ross would have jumped ship to Melbourne in 2011/12 had we the balls and brains.  Would have avoided the Neeld Fiasco.  Would have been cheaper than Roos, but basically a cardboard cut-out.

     

    Just another example of how the club's process was absolute tish, and we got what we deserved basically.

     

    Jimma and Gazza dayz.  I believe we have progressed.

    I wouldn't want Ross, defence is very important I believe you have to attack at least at some stage to win the flag.

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    11 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

    Jimma and Gazza dayz.  I believe we have progressed.

    I wouldn't want Ross, defence is very important I believe you have to attack at least at some stage to win the flag.

    In 2019 we had neither a functioning offence or defence.

    Little known fact that St.Kilda in 2009 averaged just south (1 point) of 100 points per game.

    Ross Lyon will return to the game with further growth in relation to his EI and game plan refinements; and re-position himself the top 3-4 coaches in the game (with Bevo and Clarko and the guy that inherited Wallace's hard work).  Don't forget that Hardwick circa now, actually was inspired by Bevo's Bulldogs and their offensive quick handball game in 2016.

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    1 hour ago, TGR said:

    Ross Lyon stated that he asked Craig Kelly (then manager), before leaving the Saints, "Are Melbourne interested in me?".

    Kelly basically said no one was, which was an alleged lie, as Freo had already spoken to Lyon directly.

    Interesting that Ross would have jumped ship to Melbourne in 2011/12 had we the balls and brains.  Would have avoided the Neeld Fiasco.  Would have been cheaper than Roos, but basically a cardboard cut-out.

     

    Just another example of how the club's process was absolute tish, and we got what we deserved basically.

     

    It would have been a Ross Fiasco instead. Even Clarko would have struggled with us given how poorly the club was run back then.

    49 minutes ago, TGR said:

    In 2019 we had neither a functioning offence or defence.

    Little known fact that St.Kilda in 2009 averaged just south (1 point) of 100 points per game.

    Ross Lyon will return to the game with further growth in relation to his EI and game plan refinements; and re-position himself the top 3-4 coaches in the game (with Bevo and Clarko and the guy that inherited Wallace's hard work).  Don't forget that Hardwick circa now, actually was inspired by Bevo's Bulldogs and their offensive quick handball game in 2016.

    Are you for real mate?

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    31 minutes ago, nacnud said:

    It would have been a Ross Fiasco instead. Even Clarko would have struggled with us given how poorly the club was run back then.

    Are you for real mate?

    Don't argue with this idiot, he's not a Dees fan.

    Fact is Garry Lyon approached Kelly over getting Ross Lyon and Kelly told him he was renogiating his contract with St Kilda.

    Ross blind sided his agent, which in hindsight was understandable as Kelly was also Mark Harvey's agent

    The troll has it all wrong again in so many ways

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    1 hour ago, TGR said:

    In 2019 we had neither a functioning offence or defence.

    Little known fact that St.Kilda in 2009 averaged just south (1 point) of 100 points per game.

    Ross Lyon will return to the game with further growth in relation to his EI and game plan refinements; and re-position himself the top 3-4 coaches in the game (with Bevo and Clarko and the guy that inherited Wallace's hard work).  Don't forget that Hardwick circa now, actually was inspired by Bevo's Bulldogs and their offensive quick handball game in 2016.

    Yes I agree that the Saints should have won the 2009 flag.  I think if Geelong had won as they should have in 2008 then the Saints probably would have won in 2009 - justice would have been done and Ross would have a flag.  That's the most star-studded line-up not to win a flag since Geelong under Malcolm Blight in 1989-1995.  Malcolm went on to get his flags, Ross - not so much.

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    On 2/19/2020 at 2:57 PM, Ron Burgundy said:

    Put your house and kids on it.

    There's no way this could possibly go wrong.

     

    Don't have any left after last year...

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    9 hours ago, TGR said:

     Would have been cheaper than Roos, but basically a cardboard cut-out.

    Pretty sure it was Lyons gameplan that Roos used at the Swans so .....
    Roos would actually be a cardboard cut out of Ross Lyon.

    Couldn't handle Lyon at Melbourne though.
    It's one thing to be garbage but another to be batsheet boring garbage.

    What he should do is coach one of the womens teams.
    Those scorelines would suit him down to the ground.

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    3 hours ago, Fork 'em said:

    Pretty sure it was Lyons gameplan that Roos used at the Swans so .....
    Roos would actually be a cardboard cut out of Ross Lyon.

    Couldn't handle Lyon at Melbourne though.
    It's one thing to be garbage but another to be batsheet boring garbage.

    I know someone who has dealt extensively with Roos and to some degree with Lyon, and knows people well who have dealt extensively with Lyon.

    Roos is a decent bloke. I’ll leave it at that and you can fill in the blanks.

    And I’d also argue Melbourne were pretty damn boring for the first couple of years under Roos. I’m not saying the list had the talent to be exciting or it was the wrong call, but I don’t think we would’ve seen much difference in excitement levels Roos vs. Lyon. The criticism most levelled against each as coaches was their crushing focus on defence.

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    On 2/19/2020 at 1:53 PM, Fifty-5 said:

    Yes Richmond lost by 113 in R23, can we just ignore their other losses by 88, 70, 70, 68 and 46?

    By contrast last year our biggest losses in this range were by 80, 53, 43, 41 and 40.

    At 3 quarter time we were in front or within a goal of our opposition in 12 matches for only 5 wins.  It's well documented that our poor pre-season and injuries meant we weren't able to run out games.

    Very generous and magnanimous assessment of our 2019 season.

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    2 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

    Very generous and magnanimous assessment of our 2019 season.

    No our 2019 was horrible but so was Richmond's 2016.

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    19 hours ago, Lampers said:

    I know someone who has dealt extensively with Roos and to some degree with Lyon, and knows people well who have dealt extensively with Lyon.

    Roos is a decent bloke. I’ll leave it at that and you can fill in the blanks.

    And I’d also argue Melbourne were pretty damn boring for the first couple of years under Roos. I’m not saying the list had the talent to be exciting or it was the wrong call, but I don’t think we would’ve seen much difference in excitement levels Roos vs. Lyon. The criticism most levelled against each as coaches was their crushing focus on defence.

    No arguements from me.
    Roos steadied the ship no doubt but we were still boring to watch.
    I also knew it would be so when we signed him as when he was at the swans and were on the TV I'd change the channel.
    Same when Lyon coached the Aints.

    As for us going forward I feel we need to be watchable to build a club fans and members can get excited by.
    Which will bring in more members, more free to air TV time, more sponsors and importantly ...... More money.





     

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    Stats don't tell the whole story, but I seriously don't know how anyone could refer to 2018 as the aberration. There are absolutely no excuses this year - we have good reason to be optimistic.

     

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    6 minutes ago, Accepting Mediocrity said:

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    Stats don't tell the whole story, but I seriously don't know how anyone could refer to 2018 as the aberration. There are absolutely no excuses this year - we have good reason to be optimistic.

     

    According to those numbers if we bounce back to our trajectory of the past 5 years we are looking at approximately 18 wins this year... ???

    Go Dees...

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    1 minute ago, PaulRB said:

    According to those numbers if we bounce back to our trajectory of the past 5 years we are looking at approximately 18 wins this year... ???

    Go Dees...

    As long as one of the 18 is the Grand Final.........................

     

    :)

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