15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Do we put any substance into the reason why we have brought Brian Cook in to help mentor Guerra..?

I think it’s a really good thing given the experience and success Cook has had. Guerra obviously has extensive business experience and great connections in Victoria, but fast tracking his knowledge on football matters makes sense.

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Do we put any substance into the reason why we have brought Brian Cook in to help mentor Guerra..?

Didn't we want to get someone to sit between him and the footy department and haven't been able to entice anyone to take that role? Few concerns.

2 hours ago, Redleg said:

I think the words about our Vice President learning to deal with Politics says a lot about the slowness of the process.

We have been very patient and a bit more patience is needed and to me even the fact we are discounting Waverley for a short term fix, points to not wasting money and effort, when we are close to getting Caulfield for the long term.

As someone who works in government, and in an area that liases with multiple Minister’s offices, I can confirm that the timing of any public announcement of a government funded project is dictated entirely by the relevant Minister and the government at large

I think Green has likely gotten ahead of himself and was not familiar with how these processes work, hence the indication that an announcement was close when in actuality an announcement is entirely out of our hands

Having said that, the lack of announcement at the AGM doesn’t mean the work isn’t being done and that we’re not actually close to securing funding or approval for the project - we may just be waiting for government to commit and announcement a communication timeline/strategy

31 minutes ago, BangBnagBang said:

and it doesn't help when members sue the club costing the club money, hey george!!!!

It also doesn’t help when you are paying out contracts to ex Coaches, injured players, players who have gone to other clubs, ex Officials and a host of other issues that cost money not to mention decreased revenue due to things like smaller membership, missing finals, less sponsorship etc, etc, etc.

Clubs run as businesses and businesses have different financial results, due to a number of factors, some preventable, some not, each year.

2 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I think it’s a really good thing given the experience and success Cook has had. Guerra obviously has extensive business experience and great connections in Victoria, but fast tracking his knowledge on football matters makes sense.

I agree that it's great to have Cook involved but it's a great pity we weren't able to attract a CEO that didn't need Cook to teach him the ropes.

As for Guerra's extensive business experience, could you outline this for me please? Outside of the position at VCCI, what are his business credentials?

He is apparently a great networker, but is that enough?

11 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He is apparently a great networker, but is that enough?

Well that could help with getting more sponsorship which will help the bottom line and provide some more money for Caulfield.

Btw I have a horse running there on Saturday, so will try and get a bit of info from MRC Committee persons.

Edited 14 hours ago14 hr by Redleg

27 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I agree that it's great to have Cook involved but it's a great pity we weren't able to attract a CEO that didn't need Cook to teach him the ropes.

As for Guerra's extensive business experience, could you outline this for me please? Outside of the position at VCCI, what are his business credentials?

He is apparently a great networker, but is that enough?

You don’t think dealing with a range of different businesses in Victoria wouldn’t give him experience? I also think networking is probably the most important part of the CEOs role also, which is why Gil was so much better than Dillon.

I also believe Guerra was the managing director of Optum International/United Health group, vice president at Motorola and a director at Vodafone.

The MFC website has a whole section including maps of the proposed facilites, Frequently asked Q&A, What the facilites will contain, letters to members etc. But all of it hasn't been updated since September 2024. They don't have to give us everything, but since that time there have been various possible adjustments given out including Waverley, the car park area and special events area at Caulfield. Surely they could have put an update every 4 months or so.

From Herald Sun today.

President Steven Smith said a new facility remained “a top priority for us” and the club was “really close” to being able to make an announcement on that front.

Melbourne has been eyeing a $100 million high-performance and administration facility, which would be built on land within the Caulfield Racecourse Reserve and feature two training ovals.

A feasibility study on the site began in December 2023, with a business case now expected to be handed down early in the new year.

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Do we put any substance into the reason why we have brought Brian Cook in to help mentor Guerra..?

I put some sadness in it.

What a place to be in; high paid CEO who requires development and training in THE INDUSTRY HE WAS HIRED FOR.

It’s laughable really.

They should all just shut up until they have something to announce.

They are just the most naive when it comes to messaging and their own image with their stakeholders.

Nearly every time each one of them talk - I cringe. For I know ‘that was not what they meant to say’ or ‘they can’t say more than that’ or they are ‘not across it entirely yet.’

SAD!

15 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I put some sadness in it.

What a place to be in; high paid CEO who requires development and training in THE INDUSTRY HE WAS HIRED FOR.

It’s laughable really.

yes and no - i mean, obviously ever senior exec / ceo i've had the (mis)fortune to deal with has had some sort of mentor / consultant that they have used as a leadership guide etc. etc.

but it's still hard to disagree with what you have written

10 minutes ago, rpfc said:

They should all just shut up until they have something to announce.

They are just the most naive when it comes to messaging and their own image with their stakeholders.

Nearly every time each one of them talk - I cringe. For I know ‘that was not what they meant to say’ or ‘they can’t say more than that’ or they are ‘not across it entirely yet.’

SAD!

they kind of HAVE shut up about it tho

"nothing to announce, hopefully more soon... now, moving on to our next item of business..."

Edited 10 hours ago10 hr by whatwhat say what

40 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I put some sadness in it.

What a place to be in; high paid CEO who requires development and training in THE INDUSTRY HE WAS HIRED FOR.

It’s laughable really.

Yep, sort of like Goody’s role Coaching Dean Cox and far lesser tennis players coaching the best players in the world like Nadal, Federer and Djokovic.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

Yep, sort of like Goody’s role Coaching Dean Cox and far lesser tennis players coaching the best players in the world like Nadal, Federer and Djokovic.

No, actually it would be more like getting someone from outside the industry to be mentored by someone from inside the industry.

Say if you got Djokovic to play world football and got Loinel Messi to teach him how to kick a football…

Probably should have got someone who can kick.

May as well just get Messi in there

1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

yes and no - i mean, obviously ever senior exec / ceo i've had the (mis)fortune to deal with has had some sort of mentor / consultant that they have used as a leadership guide etc. etc.

but it's still hard to disagree with what you have written

they kind of HAVE shut up about it tho

"nothing to announce, hopefully more soon... now, moving on to our next item of business..."

‘Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.’

They don’t have to talk about the fact that they may be able to soon talk about things that might be happening possibly in a future timeline in this universe or a parallel universe at some point in the future.

Just ACTUALLY shut up.

And I don’t want to hear from any trainees on things they apparently don’t know much about.

57 minutes ago, rpfc said:

No, actually it would be more like getting someone from outside the industry to be mentored by someone from inside the industry.

Say if you got Djokovic to play world football and got Loinel Messi to teach him how to kick a football…

Probably should have got someone who can kick.

May as well just get Messi in there

Yes, sorry I got that wrong.

Me thinking of the Board talking about a new Training Facility.... be like ...

14 hours ago, dice said:

Beginning to see an "overpromising" pattern with Guerra, unfortunately.

As if they will come out and say otherwise, would of got donuts for both.

9 hours ago, Redleg said:

Well that could help with getting more sponsorship which will help the bottom line and provide some more money for Caulfield.

Btw I have a horse running there on Saturday, so will try and get a bit of info from MRC Committee persons.

Mister Me?

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Yes, sorry I got that wrong.

What is this post? Where’s the sarcasm emoji or an unnecessary insult… ffs