9 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

With the new list sizes this could change things.

latest report has aflpa fighting hard against reduced list sizes

i thought they and the afl would find a common ground on total list size number but it's looking increasingly like being a fraught battle

18 hours ago, demoniac said:

How are you at operating a computer on draft night!

Up to the task. Happy to assist JT if needed!  Though I might need to sharpen up in the speed typing.  

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55 minutes ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

latest report has aflpa fighting hard against reduced list sizes

i thought they and the afl would find a common ground on total list size number but it's looking increasingly like being a fraught battle

I don't think they will cut the list but they could cut the rookie lists to 2 or 3 players.

42 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I don't think they will cut the list but they could cut the rookie lists to 2 or 3 players.

aflpa currently arguing that status quo should remain

I think 38 plus 4 rookies (including any cat b rookies ) is probably preferred.  That replaces 40 plus up to 6 rookies 

On 8/8/2020 at 8:47 AM, dazzledavey36 said:

Nice mate. Looking at his WAFL profile, he's listed as 182cm and 72kg. 

Midfielder by the looks of it?

Playing off HB as a younger colt with runs through the middle

Like his dad has huge upside and the right attitude and desire to succeed 

They are playing footy in Tassie where a few draft prospects are showing their wares.

Scouting notes and weekly wrap: TSL – Round 5

55 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

They are playing footy in Tassie where a few draft prospects are showing their wares.

Scouting notes and weekly wrap: TSL – Round 5

Patrick Walker impresses last year and to see him playing good footy again in 2020. One to consider around a pick 50 if we have one available. Excellent skills and good mover. Like Trent Rivers in style. 

53 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Patrick Walker impresses last year and to see him playing good footy again in 2020. One to consider around a pick 50 if we have one available. Excellent skills and good mover. Like Trent Rivers in style. 

I think we should be looking for a wingman and a small forward which youngsters impress you in that category?

Wing position. 

Jack Carroll (WA). Saw him at last year’s championship.  Hoping he stays under the radar.  Should be available around pick 20. 

Nick Stevens is a country lad from Ballarat Rebels who is good mover with skills and footy smarts. Saw him in the Geelong Grammar v Melbourne Grammar game last year and he was a standout. Could be available around pick 30  

Joshua Clarke. Played in last years U18s GF for Eastern.  Good pace and skills on both sides. Skinny but classic runner.  Likely pick 45-50. 

The excellent Road to the Draft series returns ~ 

LISTEN: How draft night should change, latest bolters, and what happens to the Vics?

And some prospects from Vic Metro & Vic Country -

NAB League guns we won't see: Vic Metro's hottest prospects

NAB League guns we won't see: Vic Country's brightest prospects

Jack Carroll is one of the best youngsters out of WA and comes from East Fremantle. Played with Jackson and Rivers last year. Would be great to see the Dees snatch him with a pick around #20-22.  (Hoping Hawks stay in 16th place as we got their 2nd round pick this 2020 draft).  
Carroll is a classy midfielder and would fit nicely on the other wing opposite Langdon.  

Callum Twomey's monthly Phantom Form Guide lists key position talls as four of the top five prospects for the 2020 draft

Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Form Guide: September update

This McDonald will most likely go top 5 ~

Key forward rockets into top-10 draft mix after bag of goals
 

6 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Callum Twomey's monthly Phantom Form Guide lists key position talls as four of the top five prospects for the 2020 draft

Cal Twomey's 2020 Phantom Form Guide: September update
 

Is there any way of knowing what the available players are in the phantom draft? i.e those not tied to Academy or F/S.  There are some mentioned in the Twomey list, but obviously not all....

 

35 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

Is there any way of knowing what the available players are in the phantom draft? i.e those not tied to Academy or F/S.  There are some mentioned in the Twomey list, but obviously not all....

Not yet George - and I’m not sure if those outside the recruiting industry ever will.

However, there are some resources available such as discussions on bigfooty’s draft boards 

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forums/draft-hub-with-phantom-drafts.284/

Then there’s AFL Draft Central -

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/afl-draft-watch/

The problem this year is that there’s no football happening in Victoria where a majority of the draft pool comes from so recruiters are going to have to rely on scouting in the states where the game’s being played and on 2019 form and a lot of guesswork.

I liked what I saw of Archie Perkins last year. Played forward and midfield, showed ability to burst away from opposition through middle and good hands when playing forward. Not sure he'll be around at our first pick, but looked a likely type.

Jack Carroll from WA looks a solid prospect as a balanced midfielder who knows how to find ball and make good decisions with it. He might be around at our first pick, though his stocks may be rising due to actually getting to play this year.

7 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

I liked what I saw of Archie Perkins last year. Played forward and midfield, showed ability to burst away from opposition through middle and good hands when playing forward. Not sure he'll be around at our first pick, but looked a likely type.

Jack Carroll from WA looks a solid prospect as a balanced midfielder who knows how to find ball and make good decisions with it. He might be around at our first pick, though his stocks may be rising due to actually getting to play this year.

He's rising fast, really good kid. Country boy now permanently based in the East Freo program absolute ball magnet and a good size. 

On 9/1/2020 at 1:53 PM, george_on_the_outer said:

Is there any way of knowing what the available players are in the phantom draft? i.e those not tied to Academy or F/S.  There are some mentioned in the Twomey list, but obviously not all....

 

The AFL has issued the list of the 94 invitees to the Draft Combine.

Boost for Vics as AFL reveals every state's Draft Combine list

2020 NAB AFL Draft Combine list (as of September 3)

NSW (To be held on Sunday, October 25) 

Braeden Campbell (Sydney Academy)
Charlie Byrne (Murray Bushrangers)
Errol Gulden (Sydney Academy)
Joshua Green (GWS Academy)

Northern Territory (Saturday, October 3) 

Joel Jeffrey (Wanderers/Gold Coast Academy)
Maurice Rioli jnr (Oakleigh Chargers)
Brodie Lake (Southern Districts/Central District (SA)/Gold Coast Academy)

Queensland (Saturday, October 3) 

Alex Davies (Gold Coast Academy)
Blake Coleman (Brisbane Academy)
Carter Michael (Brisbane Academy)
Jack Briskey (Brisbane Academy)
Max Pescud (Gold Coast Academy)
Saxon Crozier (Brisbane Academy)

South Australia (Wednesday, September 30) 

Brayden Cook (South Adelaide)
Caleb Poulter (Woodville West Torrens)
Corey Durdin (Central District)
Henry Smith (Woodville West Torrens)
James Borlase (Sturt)
Jye Sinderberry (West Adelaide)
Kaine Baldwin (Glenelg)
Lachlan Jones (Woodville West Torrens)
Luke Edwards (Glenelg)
Luke Pedlar (Glenelg)
Malachy Carruthers (Sturt)
Mitchell Duval (West Adelaide)
Pheonix Spicer (South Adelaide)
Riley Thilthorpe (West Adelaide)
Taj Schofield (Woodville West Torrens)
Tariek Newchurch (North Adelaide)
Tom Powell (Sturt)
Tom Highmore (South Adelaide)
Xavier Robbins (Glenelg)
Zac Dumesny (South Adelaide)

Tasmania (Week of Monday, September 21) 

Jackson Callow (North Launceston)
Oliver Davis (Clarence)
Patrick Walker (North Hobart)
Sam Collins (North Hobart)

Vic Country (TBC) 

Blake Reid (Geelong Falcons)
Cameron Fleeton (Geelong Falcons)
Charlie Ham (Geelong Falcons)
Charlie Lazzaro (Geelong Falcons)
Clayton Gay (Dandenong Stingrays)
Elijah Hollands (Murray Bushrangers)
Henry Sharp (Greater Western Victoria Rebels)
Henry Walsh (Geelong Falcons)
Jack Ginnivan (Bendigo Pioneers)
Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Oakleigh Chargers)
Josh Treacy (Bendigo Pioneers)
Nick Stevens (Greater Western Victoria Rebels)
Noah Gribble (Geelong Falcons)
Oliver Henry (Geelong Falcons)
Ryan Angwin (Gippsland Power)
Sam Berry (Gippsland Power)
Seamus Mitchell (Bendigo Pioneers)
Tanner Bruhn (Geelong Falcons)
Will Bravo (Dandenong Stingrays)
Zach Reid (Gippsland Power)
Zavier Maher (Murray Bushrangers)

Vic Metro (TBC) 

Lachlan Carrigan (Sandringham Dragons)
Archie Perkins (Sandringham Dragons)
Bailey Laurie (Oakleigh Chargers)
Campbell Edwardes (Calder Cannons)
Cody Brand (Calder Cannons)
Connor Downie (Eastern Ranges)
Conor Stone (Oakleigh Chargers)
Corey Preston (Eastern Ranges)
Eddie Ford (Western Jets)
Ewan Macpherson (Northern Knights)
Finlay Macrae (Oakleigh Chargers)
Fraser Rosman (Sandringham Dragons)
Jake Bowey (Sandringham Dragons)
Josh Eyre (Calder Cannons)
Joshua Clarke (Eastern Ranges)
Liam McMahon (Northern Knights)
Liam Kolar (Northern Knights)
Luke Cleary (Sandringham Dragons)
Matt Allison (Calder Cannons)
Max Heath (Sandringham Dragons)
Max Holmes (Sandringham Dragons)
Nikolas Cox (Northern Knights)
Ollie Lord (Sandringham Dragons)
Reef McInnes (Oakleigh Chargers)
Will Phillips (Oakleigh Chargers)

Western Australia (Wednesday, September 30) 

Blake Morris (Subiaco)
Brandon Walker (East Fremantle)
Denver Grainger-Barras (Swan Districts)
Heath Chapman (West Perth)
Jack Carroll (East Fremantle)
Joel Western (Claremont)
Kalin Lane (Claremont)
Logan McDonald (Perth)
Nathan O'Driscoll (Perth)
Shannon Neale (South Fremantle)
Zane Trew (Swan Districts) 

Also ~ 

Dragons, Falcons lead the way as AFL announces 2020 Draft Combine list

 

 

What we need.  Pace and skill. That’s it for me. I want runners. I want to take our game to match the Tigers transition of the footy.  We get the footy (Trac, Clarry, Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw,Sparrow) but lack the outside run. 
Langdon and Rivers have added this in 2020.  But we need more. 
 

The top targets 

Jack Carroll. East Freo.  I saw him last year and put his name down. Great skills and run. Fit beautifully on the wing opposite Langdon. Teammate of Rivers and Jackson at East Freo colts. Give JT the pick and “Get him in”. 
 

Archie Perkins. Sandringham.  Showed in 2019 that he’s got pace and class and moves through traffic similar to Pendlebury.  
 

Eddie Ford. Western Jets. Stood out as underager in 2019. Best jets player since Callan Ward! Played well in futures game on the G.  Good size at 188cm and has the pace and tenacity. Definitely AFL traits.  
 

Jack Ginnivan. Bendigo. Another skilled player especially across half forward. Think Connor Rozee type. Creates and runs. 

Brandon Walker. East Freo. Another NGA zoning player to Freo.  If he’s not gone, I’d push the button and make the kid. A skilled runner who delivers the footy lace out. I think will be a Tim Kelly type player. 

Others in perhaps the later part of the draft at 50+ 
Brayden Cook.  Sth Adelaide.
Nick Stevens. Rebels. 
Isaac Wareham.  2019 Rebels (Got injured last year and missed being drafted). 
Patrick Walker. Tassie.
Harry Sharp. Rebels. 
Joshua Clarke. Eastern. 

Three of these blokes on board will definitely help our run and skills and corridor footy return. 
 

On 9/8/2020 at 10:02 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

What we need.  Pace and skill. That’s it for me. I want runners. I want to take our game to match the Tigers transition of the footy.  We get the footy (Trac, Clarry, Viney, Harmes, Brayshaw,Sparrow) but lack the outside run. 
Langdon and Rivers have added this in 2020.  But we need more. 
 

The top targets 

Jack Carroll. East Freo.  I saw him last year and put his name down. Great skills and run. Fit beautifully on the wing opposite Langdon. Teammate of Rivers and Jackson at East Freo colts. Give JT the pick and “Get him in”. 
 

Archie Perkins. Sandringham.  Showed in 2019 that he’s got pace and class and moves through traffic similar to Pendlebury.  
 

Eddie Ford. Western Jets. Stood out as underager in 2019. Best jets player since Callan Ward! Played well in futures game on the G.  Good size at 188cm and has the pace and tenacity. Definitely AFL traits.  
 

Jack Ginnivan. Bendigo. Another skilled player especially across half forward. Think Connor Rozee type. Creates and runs. 

Brandon Walker. East Freo. Another NGA zoning player to Freo.  If he’s not gone, I’d push the button and make the kid. A skilled runner who delivers the footy lace out. I think will be a Tim Kelly type player. 

Others in perhaps the later part of the draft at 50+ 
Brayden Cook.  Sth Adelaide.
Nick Stevens. Rebels. 
Isaac Wareham.  2019 Rebels (Got injured last year and missed being drafted). 
Patrick Walker. Tassie.
Harry Sharp. Rebels. 
Joshua Clarke. Eastern. 

Three of these blokes on board will definitely help our run and skills and corridor footy return. 
 

Thoughts on Bailey Laurie 

59 minutes ago, adonski said:

Thoughts on Bailey Laurie 

Good half forward type AFL player. Definitely shows talent and will get drafted. We have plenty of similar type players.  

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He’s not really a Smokey pick but I’d love to see grab Angus Baker as a late pick. 22yo ex Swans academy player who had a great season for Canberra in the NEAFL. Was the leagues best player and played very well against the AFL clubs aligned reserves teams. 
Tough running skilled half back. 189cms 83 kgs. Would take mid sized defender and probably fit into Hibberds role.  I know we have Rivers but Baker also would be handy. One to consider. 

 Was just reading that the projected #1 pick is a Western Bulldogs Academy player.

So they already have a great list and will now add the best under 18 talent despite not even owning a top 10 pick.

What a scam.