59 minutes ago, rjay said:

I think we will see more of 2018 but with a list capable of seeing it through.

Yes, 100% agree. I think Langdon and Tomlinson will prove to he very important in this respect.

54 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Ha! ha! this is definitely one of yours

 

I am not apportioning blame or reasons. I am saying that our coaches should have reviewed that PF, regardless of their gut reaction, in order to learn as much as they possibly could from it. Such an effort might have had a mitigating effect on 2019 where even our non-injured and non-ill prepared players routinely ran around as if they were Izzy Folau playing his first praccy match for GWS.

But surely you don't actually believe they didn't review the game?

4 minutes ago, binman said:

But surely you don't actually believe they didn't review the game?

No I don't. But I don't know on what basis. It's all guesswork (from all of us).

7 hours ago, Engorged Onion said:

All clubs, all the time, week in, week out -  are reviewing strategies to beat any other club... the oft trotted out line of, 'we will just focus on us', is well a smoke screen'.

The magnitude of the loss is important in so much as, that we can acknowledge throughout the season, the team put numerous clubs to the sword. If we kept losing matches by 4-6 goals week in week out, then clearly teams had worked us out/the system didnt work. However this was not the case.

I wonder what the conversation would have been if we lost by 5 goals... would we be unlucky, would we be tired, would the WCE have worked us out?

We got annihilated because we were exhausted. You don't lose matches by 11goals purely by strategy, its either a Neeld era team, or the players cant run to position.

AND then linking the belief that 'we was worked out in 2018 prelin'   to how we performed in 2019 is reductionist and simplistic. If the players haven't trained, and don't have the capacity to run out games, then in the modern era of aerobic fitness, the team is f'd.

 

How many games did the team lead in the last quarter of games and lose? They where just not able to run out games, a bad preseason is not an excuse it's a reason, 16 post season surgeries to your best 22. Even so our losing margin was only 23 points.

8 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

How many games did the team lead in the last quarter of games and lose? They where just not able to run out games, a bad preseason is not an excuse it's a reason, 16 post season surgeries to your best 22. Even so our losing margin was only 23 points.

This is actually a fair point to make, we had ourselves in winning positions into the last quarter quite a few times in 2019 but failed to run the games out and get the result. This can very easily be traced back to our lack of fitness in the pre-season. Like you I'm not giving the players and get out of jail free card for the poor season we had but I does allow them to have belief in themselves and belief that if we click again we can do some serious damage in 2020.

4 hours ago, Pates said:

This is actually a fair point to make, we had ourselves in winning positions into the last quarter quite a few times in 2019 but failed to run the games out and get the result. This can very easily be traced back to our lack of fitness in the pre-season. Like you I'm not giving the players and get out of jail free card for the poor season we had but I does allow them to have belief in themselves and belief that if we click again we can do some serious damage in 2020.

  Yes. There seems to be a fine line between 'excuse' and 'reason for' in some people's minds, but if players can focus on 'reason for' it can restore confidence.  Some supporters here would benefit too.

14 minutes ago, sue said:

  Yes. There seems to be a fine line between 'excuse' and 'reason for' in some people's minds, but if players can focus on 'reason for' it can restore confidence.  Some supporters here would benefit too.

We kicked some games away also viz Adelaide and WCE twice !!!

Geelong review prelim loss............

https://www.afl.com.au/news/267612/tomahawk-cats-revisit-preliminary-final-heartache

Not much info but review it they did.

 

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Geelong review prelim loss............

https://www.afl.com.au/news/267612/tomahawk-cats-revisit-preliminary-final-heartache

Not much info but review it they did.

 

Of course they would. How do we fix deficiencies...?