Goal kicking - is it the yips or something deeper

[Deemania since 56 6,774]

On 5/18/2019 at 4:38 AM, Pates said:

So there’s been plenty of discussion about the umpires from the West Coast but really we had the game in our hands for most of the match but didn’t make the most of our entries or chances. 

But only 3 times this year have we kicked more goals than behind with the Essendon game (18.4) being the best. Last week it was so very close to costing us the win and this week there is no doubt in my mind it cost us. We had so many chances that should’ve been nailed and some of them weren’t even close. 

TMac who’s usually a good set shot even has the yips now, but the worst offenders are clearly Jeffy and Petracca. Now both did very good and important things on the weekend but it’s not good enough to say, “take the good with the bad”. Petracca who is on more money than most of us will see in a lifetime missed from what most people at the local ground would be nailing. While he also had a running shot that didn’t even register a score!

I’m sick of it and it’s about bloody time the coaches did something about it. But the question is, is it simply the yips that’s spreading through the club or is it poor technique that needs correcting? And if it’s the latter why hasn’t it been done before?

With correct technique, there ain't no 'yips'. Something needs to be worked on continuously, often, completely, universally, critically, immediately. And then, review it all so that the next starting base is better informed across the board. Kicking goals, not points or OOBs is not hard from 50m - 1m. 

[DV8 2,271]

On 5/18/2019 at 5:08 AM, Pates said:

So there’s been plenty of discussion about the umpires from the West Coast but really we had the game in our hands for most of the match but didn’t make the most of our entries or chances. 

But only 3 times this year have we kicked more goals than behind with the Essendon game (18.4) being the best. Last week it was so very close to costing us the win and this week there is no doubt in my mind it cost us. We had so many chances that should’ve been nailed and some of them weren’t even close. 

TMac who’s usually a good set shot even has the yips now, but the worst offenders are clearly Jeffy and Petracca. Now both did very good and important things on the weekend but it’s not good enough to say, “take the good with the bad”. Petracca who is on more money than most of us will see in a lifetime missed from what most people at the local ground would be nailing. While he also had a running shot that didn’t even register a score!

I’m sick of it and it’s about bloody time the coaches did something about it. But the question is, is it simply the yips that’s spreading through the club or is it poor technique that needs correcting? And if it’s the latter why hasn’t it been done before?

I think its a bit of everything,  'Pts'.

 

Technique...  Yips...

And also our  conservativeness  in footy.   Stay with me.  

Our 'conservativeness in football',  being  'too-kind'...  I think leads to us Not going in for the  ' Kill '...    hence when we are leading/winning,  most times,  its not by much...  and so when the opposition threaten again,  We are back feeling under pressure,  because we haven't put them away...  killed them off.

 

So each time that happens,  our boys are forever kicking for goal under pressure....  instead of being more  'run-of-the-mill',  with our scoring.

 

... always being under pressure creates stressful habits,  that live on... in all of us,  not just the players,  and  'in-turn',  this also builds onto the MfcSS... which then comes around again for our players.  

They sense the fear/apprehension from Us in the crowd,  as they kick for goal.

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[layzie 34,415]

Petracca is pretty much the epitome of everything wrong with a set shot routine right now. Confidence and mental state is low to begin with and then he comes in with the slow run up action and high ball drop. Recipe for disaster.

it would be great if he could start again but when does this ever happen now? Who puts in entire off seasons ala Matthew Lloyd trying to get their routine bulletproof anymore? Just doesn’t happen. 

[picket fence 18,078]

On 5/18/2019 at 6:58 AM, Pitchy said:

I had a Russian singing teacher who was trained in the harsh traditional way in 1940's Russia. Her wisdom would apply to Trac's goal kicking technique. She would speak of whole body involvement. She would say to be rooted through your legs at all times. 'Remember tree trunks' she would say.

When Petracca has a set shot, his attention seems to be only in his head and his body is lagging/ambling behind. From the moment he begins his approach he needs to be told to think only of his tree trunk legs (which in his case are hard to miss!). Then when he arrives to kick they will be engaged appropriately in sync.

At the moment he is so laggy his boot sometimes barely hits the ball. 

This aint Rocket Science. Whoever is skills/ Goalkicking coach needs to stand aside, I am available for consult!

Logic says the higher the ball drop the bigger chance of error, That plus he tends to not kick in a straight pendulum.

Sheesh 

1 Pick a target behind the goals

2 Lower trajectory from hand foot

3 Kick through footy aiming for 12.00 High

4 Practice this set shot routine BLINDFOLDED 

That's right Blindfolded till it becomes second nature

Shheesh who is the goalkicking coach???

Ok I'll do it but yer better pay me well  to fix this!!

[Demon17 5,231]

9 hours ago, layzie said:

Petracca is pretty much the epitome of everything wrong with a set shot routine right now. Confidence and mental state is low to begin with and then he comes in with the slow run up action and high ball drop. Recipe for disaster.

it would be great if he could start again but when does this ever happen now? Who puts in entire off seasons ala Matthew Lloyd trying to get their routine bulletproof anymore? Just doesn’t happen. 

Agreed Layzie.  We can all see this from the grandstand but nothing seems to change with Trac. I am a big fan and he's definitely got the  footy smarts but delivers only 50% of kicks to position which undoes the good inside work he does and the feeding out of the ball.

This will prevent him becoming more than  B grader in his career and will be an indictment on the coaching staff if nothing improves.

That's their job isn't it???

[DV8 2,271]

21 hours ago, layzie said:

Petracca is pretty much the epitome of everything wrong with a set shot routine right now. Confidence and mental state is low to begin with and then he comes in with the slow run up action and high ball drop. Recipe for disaster.

it would be great if he could start again but when does this ever happen now? Who puts in entire off seasons ala Matthew Lloyd trying to get their routine bulletproof anymore? Just doesn’t happen. 

And they want to be referred to as Professionals.?   To me this is the problem of a lacking of true depth. 

Real depth would fix this lack of skills training.

[Males 578]

They asked Jack Riewoldt during the last quarter of our game, talking about our poor goal kicking, how many set shots are they “allowed” to take at training, he said 30-40 for the week. ? 30-40 a week? That should be a day, minimum. If Melbourne’s “sport scientists” have our players on a similar program, no wonder our guys aren’t improving their set shots. ?

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

If they take 41 shots they have to run laps, except they've already run that week's allowed number of metres. So they have to do 20 pushups, except they've already done that week's allowed number of bicep contractions. So they have to stand in the naughty corner, but that's being used by Melbourne Storm for their training. So they get an earful from a coach, but their ears have already absorbed that week's quota of decibels. It's a real dilemma.

The tail wags the dog.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 17,087]

42 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

If they take 41 shots they have to run laps, except they've already run that week's allowed number of metres. So they have to do 20 pushups, except they've already done that week's allowed number of bicep contractions. So they have to stand in the naughty corner, but that's being used by Melbourne Storm for their training. So they get an earful from a coach, but their ears have already absorbed that week's quota of decibels. It's a real dilemma.

The tail wags the dog.

But the players have become really good at sprinting off the ground for an interchange. You don't get that without significant input from the sports scientists.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

With winter coming and the heavy rains,  the drowning practice will put us at an advantage over the clubs who waste their time on kicking, marking, and scoring!