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good point about bernie's decision to not mark (no cats around) but punch ball fwd with 40secs on clock after last cats kickin. could have milked clock for 30sec - game over

we all seemed to miss this in our post game discussions

watch last 2 mins

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6 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

good point about bernie's decision to not mark (no cats around) but punch ball fwd with 40secs on clock after last cats kickin. could have milked clock for 30sec - game over

we all seemed to miss this in our post game discussions

watch last 2 mins

Yeah I missed it too, until I saw the replay of it a couple of nights ago and Tom Mc telling the umpire about Gawn bleeding, fair to say they all went it to panic mode.

 
6 minutes ago, MSFebey said:

Yeah I missed it too, until I saw the replay of it a couple of nights ago and Tom Mc telling the umpire about Gawn bleeding, fair to say they all went it to panic mode.

yeah, so many mistakes and lack of common sense in those last 2 minutes

the more i watch it the more i see


the more i think of those last 2 minutes it seemed like we played as though we were points DOWN rather than points UP

fmd

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2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

yeah, so many mistakes and lack of common sense in those last 2 minutes

the more i watch it the more i see

It was the older guys who let us down Vince here, Jones' lazy chase, Lewis' letting his opponent go, TMac with Gawn incident. Unbelievable and you wouldn't expect that to ever happen. The kids are doing fine.

 
Just now, MSFebey said:

It was the older guys who let us down Vince here, Jones' lazy chase, Lewis' letting his opponent go, TMac with Gawn incident. Unbelievable and you wouldn't expect that to ever happen. The kids are doing fine.

and i can think of a lot of other bad tactics but i won't list them as it just depresses me and i want a good sleep tonight

Frost coming towards the wing instead of tracking Hawkins through the middle.

The whole last few minutes were atrocious. In the time Gawn went off, the leaders should have had time to get things set up right and convey what needed to be done.


The whole last quarter was a nightmare but especially the last couple of minutes. It is one of the worst losses I have seen.

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

good point about bernie's decision to not mark (no cats around) but punch ball fwd with 40secs on clock after last cats kickin. could have milked clock for 30sec - game over

we all seemed to miss this in our post game discussions

watch last 2 mins

Im pretty sure i mentioned it in one of my rants.

Not double teaming Hawkins aka playing with a spare after he kicked 2 in a row was a game changer. Gave Hawkins incredible confidence leading into wide open spaces, gave them complete momentum. 

TMac telling the Umps about Gawn staggers me if true.
I saw him bleeding and was hoping to hell the umps didn't notice.
And then dammit .... They did.
Just knew it was a nail in the coffin.

So, why the f... don't they practice these scenarios at training? I said this on another thread.

I've been to training a number of times over the last 12 mths and this is clearly not practiced. Defenders on forwards at the end of training (exhaustion) with 2 points up or down and heap the pressure on them with a real countdown clock. It's easy to talk about what went wrong, but they also need to practice.

It's not like we haven't been in these situations in real games ?


You can't practice that sort of intensity.
It comes down to plain football smarts, and we're the dumbest club out there.

 

7 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

You can't practice that sort of intensity.
It comes down to plain football smarts, and we're the dumbest club out there.

 

Sure you can. Include different mixes to the situation each week, eg. Near the boundary, or from kick out, or goal needed from centre bounce with 30 sec left, or flooding the backline. Then the coaches give feedback on the spot. Use countdown clock with hooter siren

1 hour ago, Win4theAges said:

Not double teaming Hawkins aka playing with a spare after he kicked 2 in a row was a game changer. Gave Hawkins incredible confidence leading into wide open spaces, gave them complete momentum. 

at the end we should have ensured we had 2 extra defenders than they had back. 2 sweepers and the rest man on man (and i mean manon on man).

hogan or tmac should have dropped back.  what the hell was spargo doing dropping back

School boy stuff really,  a years worth of learning in 2 minutes, lets hope we learn from all our mistakes from that last quarter.

Players, Coaches and everyone involved with the MFC.

10 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

at the end we should have ensured we had 2 extra defenders than they had back. 2 sweepers and the rest man on man (and i mean manon on man).

hogan or tmac should have dropped back.  what the hell was spargo doing dropping back

Add to that list of failings - and all of orhers - you can add jkh coming off with 90 seconds to go. As soon as omac kicked to trac he should have turned and spinted to give an option. In the centre. Would have been impossible for cats  to man him up.

Cant blame him as he wouldn't have felt authorized to make that call (you'd hope a senior player would) but rhw eunner or benxh should have told him to do it.

In any case why take him off wirh only 90 seconds to go and leave us one down?


56 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Sure you can. Include different mixes to the situation each week, eg. Near the boundary, or from kick out, or goal needed from centre bounce with 30 sec left, or flooding the backline. Then the coaches give feedback on the spot. Use countdown clock with hooter siren

That's probably theory.
Things they'll talk about in meetings.

As I said , you cannot train with that sort of intensity.
Mentally or physically.

Or maybe you can, but they decided to skip the training incase of injury.

 

22 minutes ago, binman said:

Add to that list of failings - and all of orhers - you can add jkh coming off with 90 seconds to go. As soon as omac kicked to trac he should have turned and spinted to give an option. In the centre. Would have been impossible for cats  to man him up.

Cant blame him as he wouldn't have felt authorized to make that call (you'd hope a senior player would) but rhw eunner or benxh should have told him to do it.

In any case why take him off wirh only 90 seconds to go and leave us one down?

The great players want the ball in that situation.
The not so good ones don't want the ball anywhere near them.

1 hour ago, Fork 'em said:

You can't practice that sort of intensity.
It comes down to plain football smarts, and we're the dumbest club out there.

 

I agree it is difficult to replicate the intensity of a match but thwy can - and do - practice that sceario. So when the times comes they don't have to think. Just do what  they have practised. The smart players know when to deviate from the team method.

As i have noted clock management is a critical element in bbal and at the elte level run last minurte scearios all rhe time.

 

Remember stkilda beating us with a goal in literally the dying seconds of the game a couple of a seasons ago, I distinctly remember the club talk of the learnings from that game. They were able to demonstrate the ‘learnings ‘ and protect their narrow lead shortly after, with that amazing win over west coast in Perth -tommy Mac kicking that miraculous goal over his head. Remember him not stopping to celebrate but instructing team mates demonstratively, what to do to protect the narrow lead.

they forgot the learnings 

1 hour ago, binman said:

I agree it is difficult to replicate the intensity of a match but thwy can - and do - practice that sceario. So when the times comes they don't have to think. Just do what  they have practised. The smart players know when to deviate from the team method.

As i have noted clock management is a critical element in bbal and at the elte level run last minurte scearios all rhe time.

Lets face it , they cannot hit enough targets to run a clock down anyway.
So we kick torps in hope instead.

 

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