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2 hours ago, Damo said:

He is a give-up.

Doesnt try hard enough.

It's funny how we as supporters can have completely polar opposite opinions. 

IMO he is working really hard, competes in the air and on the ground. 

Just lacking a bit of strength and polish 

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Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I make constructive suggestions and you post: "yeah but...i dont know!" 

Cool story bro

Ok I'll say it .. I dont think he will be the player that we expect him to be. He gets easily brushed aside and doesnt impose enough on a contest and take telling pack marks! There, take it as opinion. I don"t think he will make it!

I would LOVE to be proven otherwise but just can't see it at this stage!

Ok?

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we have to be patient with Weideman. I think the sort of pre season the players were given was not what our young developing players were looking for. looks to me like their fitness/endurance levels have gone backwards this year, when instead it really should be building, year on year. 

Spargo, Weid and OMac have all had a few weeks off from playing this year and were put through "mini preseasons", according to the club. that's pretty much sounds like that they were out of condition to me. Weid isn't the full package yet, I wouldn't be writing him off until at least another year, hopefully in an improved system.

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Just now, picket fence said:

Ok I'll say it .. I dont think he will be the player that we expect him to be. He gets easily brushed aside and doesnt impose enough on a contest. There take it as opinion. I don;t think he will make it!

Ok?

Better.

What did you expect him to be? Hogan mk 2?

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Just now, Moonshadow said:

Better.

What did you expect him to be? Hogan mk 2?

Yep!!


Posted
2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Sorry. Time to stop reading fairy tales 

You posted the comparison!!! Now you say it is fairy tale?? So tell me Moonshadow... What do you expect Weideman to be or Not to be ?? Hnmmmm???

Posted
1 hour ago, Watts the matter said:

Daniher kicked 43 goals in his 4th season and Darcy Moore always showed elite athleticism which is a weakness of Weideman

I'd like to see him given a Darcy Moore role for the rest of the season.

Posted
1 minute ago, Tony Tea said:

I'd like to see him given a Darcy Moore role for the rest of the season.

He is that far from Darcy Moore its fanciful!

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Posted
6 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Welll well WELL SOME BREVITY AT LAST!

A pity JUICE never ever got a consecutive run at it! A la Weideman

Yep REAL pity!

Juice also had to put up with learning his craft at Sandringham where Sautner was the dominant forward. On the other hand those stats are a little misleading given the high scores that were quite often kicked in those days plus the open forward line.

My real concern is that four years in the Weid hasn't had one day out bar a half at Box Hill.

Posted
1 minute ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Juice also had to put up with learning his craft at Sandringham where Sautner was the dominant forward. On the other hand those stats are a little misleading given the high scores that were quite often kicked in those days plus the open forward line.

My real concern is that four years in the Weid hasn't had one day out bar a half at Box Hill.

Yep absolutely agree! 

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Try this maybe

Why not this?

Or this?

Stats can be deceptive.

 

 

Paddy Mc Cartin??

Ok Iv'e said I  don't think Weideman will make it as a Key Forward!

Happy to be proven wrong but just don't think it will happen!

OK?

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2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Really?

Weid vs Moore

AND different type of player Moore much better fast twitch fibres! Work that one out!

Posted
Just now, picket fence said:

AND different type of player Moore much better fast twitch fibres! Work that one out!

1956 Olympics committee called, they want you to return their training notes!


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It's funny. When I opened this thread, I fully e expected it to be knives out for Weid. But like all Demonland threads, it opened where I last left it... September 2018. Everyone was singing his plaudits after his final against Geelong.

The guy is 22 and a key forward playing in an utterly dysfunctional forward line. Anyone expecting him to be setting the world on fire is kidding themselves.

Whether he should be developing in the ones or at Casey? That's a valid question.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

1956 Olympics committee called, they want you to return their training notes!

Don't have to Moon.. as a qualified Physical Education Teacher and Grad Dip Sports Science .... I think Iv'e got this covered!

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Well I suppose he is about to get the chance to show what he has, being our key forward for the next few weeks. Let’s reserve judgement till then shall we. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Well I suppose he is about to get the chance to show what he has, being our key forward for the next few weeks. Let’s reserve judgement till then shall we. 

Happy to concur Bobby!!

Posted
2 hours ago, dieter said:

I don't understand the negative focus on Weidemann. If I were a forward playing for Melbourne the way it's currently playing I'd spend most of my time cursing the way the ball has come in. You don't reap silk from cows' ears...

The other thing I find interesting is why 'supporters' need to spend so much time denigrating a young player who is obviously dedicated to becoming a good player for the Melbourne Footy club. I still recall how long it took Tom Hawkins to come good. Ditto Darcy Moore, ditto the latest Daniher at Essendon.

Some of you may have read or heard he gets pretty low after becoming acquainted with the negativity displayed by some 'fans'. Fer crissake, get a grip and stop being so pessimistic and negative.

I'm going to write something controversial here. I actually think our delivery to our forwards for most of the year has been fine, but McDonald and Weideman et al have been unable to take strong marks. Today was a really good example of this trend. 5 or 6 times in the first half, McDonald and Weideman got to the right spot, the ball was kicked to them well enough and they failed to take the mark. 

This often leads to our mids bombing the ball more erratically as the game progresses, because our guys don't take marks when they're kicked to the advantage of our KPFs, so we think may as well try the chaos ball.

When I got home, I watched a bit of the GWS/Brisbane game and the marking on a lead or in the contest in that game was poles apart our game. Frost took a couple of really nice marks and Weideman took one on the wing, but apart from that, very little.

I'd back Weideman for a few more seasons yet, but would I prefer Curnow? Abso-bloody-utely.

 

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26 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Don't have to Moon.. as a qualified Physical Education Teacher and Grad Dip Sports Science .... I think Iv'e got this covered!

Quals from 1947 corn flakes packet don't count

I'll leave you with your own nuanced, qualified words: "Yeah But ..... Not sure he IS the answer!"

 

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Posted (edited)

Forgetting stats for a second

He seems to be a reactive player (rather than pro-active) and consistently trails behind his opponent, meaning that when he does need to 'go' he's not able to impact the contest. Is it his tank? Or just the way he naturally has played the game?

Mind you, this is a problem that many of our players seem to have...

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