32 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I didn't need facts to see that Pedo was carrying condition and I called it before pre-season had even started last year as did others. He ended up losing 10 kgs so you I'm assuming you saw him post weight loss. And I'm not calling these blokes fat. Because clearly they're not.

I don't mean to sound condescending, but if you've played any reasonably high level sport and have undertaken any sort of skin fold testing it's actually quite easy to tell who is carrying and who isn't.

At AFL level, it stands out. Kent is in the same boat as Pedo. Clearly, he is unsure of what an AFL athlete's lifestyle looks like. Just by looking at him, there's no doubt he could get his skinfolds down through both his diet and working harder on the track. 

I spoke to a MFC player delisted at the end of 2016, said Kent is one of the worst at the club for skinfolds...

1 minute ago, Vineytime said:

I spoke to a MFC player delisted at the end of 2016, said Kent is one of the worst at the club for skinfolds...

@Vogon Poetry 

#facts

40 minutes ago, DeeZee said:

We are definitely in the market for a Ruckman after Spencer's delisting .

I doubt that they will go for a young project player, but word is that North will trade one of theirs .

Pruess, Daw or Goldstein, which one?

It will be Goldy and he won't be cheap. He is also on big coin.  He won't be our target.

2 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

@Vogon Poetry 

#facts

But you didn't have them when you made the assertion. 

trading for a reserve ruck is a tough one ...

ideally you want a KPP who can ruck. If not you are after a back up that sits at Casey... who would want that job and would we be prepared to give up anything (pick or player wise) for such a player

Just now, Vogon Poetry said:

But you didn't have them when you made the assertion. 

I told you I didn't them Vogon.

21 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

I spoke to a MFC player delisted at the end of 2016, said Kent is one of the worst at the club for skinfolds...

Lol, doesn't surprise me. He reminds me of Darren Lehmann (playing days) in a Melbourne jumper.

3 minutes ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I told you I didn't them Vogon.

But we do now because a poster on an internet forum said something!

FWIW I suspect you're right but I was interested to see if anyone knew more to back up what was a pretty distasteful comment if it was just uninformed opinion.

Is this guy worth a season or two

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-20/why-isnt-vfl-ruck-star-nick-meese-playing-afl

 

THE RAW numbers will blow you away.  

This Northern Knights product is a five-time VFL Team of the Year ruckman, including in each of the past four seasons.  

His 1088 hit-outs and 273 to advantage in the 2017 home and away season dwarfed the next-best in each category, Box Hill's Hawthorn-listed Marc Pittonet (554) and Werribee's Kangaroo Braydon Preuss (119).  

No rival VFL big man averaged more than his 5.1 clearances or 6.8 tackles per game, either. 

He is fifth in contested possessions (9.3) among that group, too.  

What might surprise you more is that Williamstown strongman Nick Meese, the man in question, has no AFL suitors. Again. 

And probably never will, given he turns 29 on Saturday.  

56 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Could someone please make up a rumour to get this thread back on track. 

The Club has agreed with Jesse Hogan to allow him to move back to be with Ethan and his Mum. They have also agreed to trade Jack Watts there so someone will dress him with the appropriate East Coast boardies. 

Hows that work for you. 

Oh yes. This comes from a very strong sauce. Not BBQ either. 

Edited September 21, 20178 yr by It's Time

Kent has had back issues which have impacted in his capacity to train and reach the desired fitness levels

 

Just saying

 

Not a rumour, but Bernie Vince just signed on for another year

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

I didn't need facts to see that Pedo was carrying condition and I called it before pre-season had even started last year as did others. He ended up losing 10 kgs so you I'm assuming you saw him post weight loss. And I'm not calling these blokes fat. Because clearly they're not.

I don't mean to sound condescending, but if you've played any reasonably high level sport and have undertaken any sort of skin fold testing it's actually quite easy to tell who is carrying and who isn't.

At AFL level, it stands out. Kent is in the same boat as Pedo. Clearly, he is unsure of what an AFL athlete's lifestyle looks like. Just by looking at him, there's no doubt he could get his skinfolds down through both his diet and working harder on the track. 

We have been down this track a thousand times, Pedo assumed (he told me this) he was to carry on with the weight he was in previous seasons under Roos. He was wrong and embarked on a program to shed the weight, this proved not only a chance to prolong his career but a benefit to the team

I have also spoken to Kenty a few times, his issue and his constant frustration, works his arse off to get fit and then finds new way to get injured and has to start again. Just wants a clean run at it, no post season ops or back issues so may get the chance for full pre season.

 

Edited September 21, 20178 yr by Satyriconhome

1 hour ago, Vineytime said:

I spoke to a MFC player delisted at the end of 2016, said Kent is one of the worst at the club for skinfolds...

Who?

Or is this just a rumour?

 

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

We have been down this track a thousand times, Pedo assumed (he told me this) he was to carry on with the weight he was in previous seasons under Roos. He was wrong and embarked on a program to shed the weight, this proved not only a chance to prolong his career but a benefit to the team

I have also spoken to Kenty a few times, his issue and his constant frustration, works his arse off to get fit and then finds new way to get injured and has to start again. Just wants a clean run at it, no post season ops so may get the chance for full pre season.

 

@stevethemanjordan

#otherfacts

9 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

@stevethemanjordan

#otherfacts

#alternativefacts

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Is this guy worth a season or two

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-20/why-isnt-vfl-ruck-star-nick-meese-playing-afl

 

THE RAW numbers will blow you away.  

This Northern Knights product is a five-time VFL Team of the Year ruckman, including in each of the past four seasons.  

His 1088 hit-outs and 273 to advantage in the 2017 home and away season dwarfed the next-best in each category, Box Hill's Hawthorn-listed Marc Pittonet (554) and Werribee's Kangaroo Braydon Preuss (119).  

No rival VFL big man averaged more than his 5.1 clearances or 6.8 tackles per game, either. 

He is fifth in contested possessions (9.3) among that group, too.  

What might surprise you more is that Williamstown strongman Nick Meese, the man in question, has no AFL suitors. Again. 

And probably never will, given he turns 29 on Saturday.  

They won't be getting a 29 yr old ruckman. 

13 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Who?

Or is this just a rumour?

 

You're honestly amazing.

 

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

It will be Goldy and he won't be cheap. He is also on big coin.  He won't be our target.

At 29Yrs old, he won't be too expensive, or he'll be too much?

What would you guess, Redleg?

Just now, DV8 said:

At 29Yrs old, he won't be too expensive, or he'll be too much?

What would you guess, Redleg?

Not sure I understand your post. Goldy is on a big contract that the club who gets him will have to pay. Also Roos will want a good pick or player for him. 

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Is this guy worth a season or two

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-20/why-isnt-vfl-ruck-star-nick-meese-playing-afl

 

I don't think so Diamond.

His mark numbers are too low.  From the stats I saw the other day. Lots of hitouts & tackle numbers are great, but offensively, marking numbers are poor.

On 9/19/2017 at 10:43 AM, rpfc said:

The posters that don't provide that will be judged accordingly. And I wasn't responding to your tiers - I was responding to the lack of rumours up in here.

C'mon people?! Someone go read bigfooty or something...

I can't read...

5 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Not sure I understand your post. Goldy is on a big contract that the club who gets him will have to pay. Also Roos will want a good pick or player for him. 

Oh, he's still contracted . I see.

What do you reckon about Preuss.  His numbers are excellent for a Kid.  Would they trade a kid?

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

@Vogon Poetry 

#facts

Still doesn't make it a fact

Unsubstantiated fact at this point

#worstrumoursthreadever