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Next move.  Dunn, Pick 57 & 59 (340 points) to the filth for Picks 47 (316) & 83 (0) .  Puts them in a better position re father/sons.

The trade next years future 2nd Round Pick to Saints for 36.

10 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Barrett got this wrong just as he did the Lewis deal of picks.

The bloke really has NFI and just drivels shyte for a living.

That's why he has managed to find a home in footy media.

 
3 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Collingwood will not give up 47 +/- high picks for Dunn...they need all the draft points they can get for their father/sons

The following comments don't relate to your posts stuie its for the people who put up all sorts of hypothetical pick trades. 

NOTE: draft points are a sliding scale and read this: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-19/indicative-2016-afl-draft-order

ie #28 = 703 points

# 47 = 316 points

# 57 = 182 points

# 59 = 158 points

And, hopefully for the last time, a club (with some exceptions) cannot have more draft picks than vacant list spots!!

Edit: we can use picks 102 and 120 to upgrade Wagner/Smith.

Geez that's a massive slide in points from 47 to 57, didn't realize the difference was so great.

As for our list, as it stands we have 1 free spot right? So if we traded Dunn and delisted Dawes that makes 3 spots. Then using 1 draft pick and upgrading two rookies fills those 3 spots. Correct? And we don't have to use all our picks, just 3.

I know we can use our last picks to upgrade, but why would we bother using pick 84 in the draft?

 

13 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Barrett got this wrong just as he did the Lewis deal of picks.

The bloke really has NFI and just drivels shyte for a living.

The list managers are all playing mind games, so the only ones who know whats going on is the list mangers individually, in their own thoughts.  The media are just picking up the spilt scraps..

 

Purple is just one of the seagulls.


5 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

The trade next years future 2nd Round Pick to Saints for 36.

Why?

 

51 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

Why the rush to upgrade the rookies?

Wagner & Smith have shown 'promise'. By upgrading them we can have a go at some more 'speculative potentials' that Jason Taylor and co have had such a reasonable success with so far.

4 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

Next move.  Dunn, Pick 57 & 59 (340 points) to the filth for Picks 47 (316) & 83 (0) .  Puts them in a better position re father/sons.

The trade next years future 2nd Round Pick to Saints for 36.

Been thinking about this. I wondering if with the bottom end of the draft being so open where you could end up with someone in your top 30 at pick 60 if a 10 pick upgrade is worth it? Maybe having 2 stabs in the 50's is better than 1 stab in the 40's? 

I'd keep our next year picks because this is not a great draft year. We need to take 3 picks this year - I dont mind putting Smith on the senior list (cheap). and go with the 57 and 59 (or make a call on the day to upgrade?).  

 
50 minutes ago, deespicable me said:

Well theres no way any draft picked kids are going to get gifted a game.

They know right from the start they are going to have to work their butts off to get a look in.

Finally this is how a good side should look and we get a good look at the kids to see if they are any good and if one is it is viewed as a bonus, rather than the spate of "saviors" of the last ten years.

All good

And the 'kids' can learn & develop in the 2's, where they have less limelight & pressure.


13 minutes ago, Mickey said:

He wouldn't have. Hal Hunter may have been the only one who would. 

I think thats why they did the deal, & the AFL wouldn't like it dragged into the courts once again, just as the drugs saga is being put to bed.

 

it also allows us to focus on further improvements, if opportunity knocks.

 

I'm very happy to have M Hibberd.

 

... now, i'm also disapponted we don't have any real national draft action to look forward to.

3 minutes ago, Lord Ivanhoe said:

Wagner & Smith have shown 'promise'. By upgrading them we can have a go at some more 'speculative potentials' that Jason Taylor and co have had such a reasonable success with so far.

We currently have 1 spare spot on our list.  If Dunn leaves that leaves us with one other list change that we must make to go to the draft.  Presumably this would be Dawes.

If that's the case, we have 3 "live" picks, currently 57, 59 and 84.  If we upgrade both Wagner and Smith, it means we are using Pick 59 on one of them.  I personally would rather give Taylor a crack at a "speculative potential" player at 59, rather than looking for something in the rookie draft.

3 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

We currently have 1 spare spot on our list.  If Dunn leaves that leaves us with one other list change that we must make to go to the draft.  Presumably this would be Dawes.

If that's the case, we have 3 "live" picks, currently 57, 59 and 84.  If we upgrade both Wagner and Smith, it means we are using Pick 59 on one of them.  I personally would rather give Taylor a crack at a "speculative potential" player at 59, rather than looking for something in the rookie draft.

But as you've already said "billy" there's still a day to go, and if Dunn leaves you would think those picks will look very different, changes the whole thing doesn't it?

 

4 minutes ago, stuie said:

Geez that's a massive slide in points from 47 to 57, didn't realize the difference was so great.

As for our list, as it stands we have 1 free spot right? So if we traded Dunn and delisted Dawes that makes 3 spots. Then using 1 draft pick and upgrading two rookies fills those 3 spots. Correct? And we don't have to use all our picks, just 3.

I know we can use our last picks to upgrade, but why would we bother using pick 84 in the draft?

All those interpretations are correct.:rolleyes:

Re pick 84 -  Newton's future is also in the balance and would can give us another list spot to fill - then we can use #84 at the draft...

Another general comment: I am keeping the 2016 Contract thread upto date with all changes re demons.  People should look at it before positing scenarios.

 

13 minutes ago, stuie said:

Why?

 

So we don't go a full year without injecting any young talent.


Just now, Lucifer's Hero said:

All those interpretations are correct.:rolleyes:

Re pick 84 -  Newton's future is also in the balance and would can give us another list spot to fill - then we can use #84 at the draft...

Another general comment: I am keeping the 2016 Contract thread upto date with all changes re demons.  People should look at it before positing scenarios.

 

Ah yep, surely with Lewis "popping up" it means Newton's fate is surely sealed? I'm not a massive fan, but the FD seem to love Wagner and he seems a lock to be upgraded, so with Dunn, Dawes and Newton all a decent chance to go and then Wags upgraded, it leaves us with 3 spots yeah?

Still feel Mahoney has some kind of pick trade up his sleeve...

 

2 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

So we don't go a full year without injecting any young talent.

So you'd sacrifice potentially 10 draft spots just to draft this year rather than next? Doesn't make sense to me.

 

59 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Now your getting greedy Daisy

let's be ;)


10 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

We currently have 1 spare spot on our list.  If Dunn leaves that leaves us with one other list change that we must make to go to the draft.  Presumably this would be Dawes.

If that's the case, we have 3 "live" picks, currently 57, 59 and 84.  If we upgrade both Wagner and Smith, it means we are using Pick 59 on one of them.  I personally would rather give Taylor a crack at a "speculative potential" player at 59, rather than looking for something in the rookie draft.

 

6 minutes ago, stuie said:

But as you've already said "billy" there's still a day to go, and if Dunn leaves you would think those picks will look very different, changes the whole thing doesn't it?

 

See bolded part above, Stuart.

Again, go and annoy someone else.

Just now, stuie said:

Ah yep, surely with Lewis "popping up" it means Newton's fate is surely sealed? I'm not a massive fan, but the FD seem to love Wagner and he seems a lock to be upgraded, so with Dunn, Dawes and Newton all a decent chance to go and then Wags upgraded, it leaves us with 3 spots yeah?

Still feel Mahoney has some kind of pick trade up his sleeve...

I think Newton's fate was sealed before we got Lewis but don't want to update info until these things are said by the club (Ditto Dawes, rookies etc)

I was simply answering your question about pick 84 and the number of vacancies we may have.

5 minutes ago, AngryAtCasey said:

So we don't go a full year without injecting any young talent.

there's always the Rookies !!!

 
3 minutes ago, stuie said:

So you'd sacrifice potentially 10 draft spots just to draft this year rather than next? Doesn't make sense to me.

 

So your obviously assuming that we're destined for a bottom 4-6 finish then if you think our 2nd Round Pick next year will be around 26 after free agent compensation etc?

7 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

 

See bolded part above, Stuart.

Again, go and annoy someone else.

You do understand that IF Dunn gets traded THEN the rest of the scenario changes yeah?

 


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