4 minutes ago, Undeeterred said:

This is the first time someone has actually said this, and you're absolutely right. We just have no vision as a club and are always five years behind everyone else.

Ive been a Roos believer and still am in terms of what he's done with the overall club. Love him as a man and a leader of men. But, I have to say, like a few others here I now think Goodwin needs to be in the drivers seat. The game has changed, and Roos style wont cut it. I hope he's free enough in his thinking to see that .............unlike Neeld and Bailey before him. If we "stay the course" this year with this game plan we could finish with 4 - 6 wins and a lot of his good work will be undone

38 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Ascobar, maybe your problem is that your expectations are based around training reports and match summations from supporters on this forum who wear blinkers. Or maybe you just like to read all the positive things that posters write about the players, and ignore reality.

Blaming the "state of the game of the game" is a cop out.  Your anger should be solely directed at the coach and the players. Actually, also direct your anger at the forum posters who write crap about how good we are, and have falsely set your level of expectation.

 

A training report is just that a training report, every team looks a million dollars at training, everybody wanted Petracca immediately picked after 40 minutes in a scratch match simulation, so don't be so high and mighty precious............. as for walking away, all I can say to 'supporters' like that is bye

The club sucks has for years the AFL sucks has for years we beat Geelong last year we should be starting to get level with them but no Free Agency took care of that it's like the hawks get the bottom sides best defender and win there 3rd flag in a row AFL not a very good sport anymore.

5 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

A training report is just that a training report, every team looks a million dollars at training, everybody wanted Petracca immediately picked after 40 minutes in a scratch match simulation, so don't be so high and mighty precious............. as for walking away, all I can say to 'supporters' like that is bye

And you will be there next week at training patting all the players on the Bum telling them not to worry Satyr won't you.....

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

And you will be there next week at training patting all the players on the Bum telling them not to worry Satyr won't you.....

Actually my cheerful little friend, as people I chat to them, as players I tell them exactly what I thought of their performance, hence why they chat to me,  coz I don't abuse or bloke smoke up their arse....as you are not there when I am chatting to the players, like a lot of things, you have absolutely no idea what is said

Edited April 2, 20169 yr by Satyriconhome

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

Actually my cheerful little friend, as people I chat to them, as players I tell them exactly what I thought of their performance, hence why the chat to me,  coz I don't abuse or bloke smoke up their arse....as you are not there when I am chatting to the players, like a lot of things, you have absolutely no idea what is said

Whatever.

You are COMPLETELY Delusional

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Actually my cheerful little friend, as people I chat to them, as players I tell them exactly what I thought of their performance, hence why they chat to me,  coz I don't abuse or bloke smoke up their arse....as you are not there when I am chatting to the players, like a lot of things, you have absolutely no idea what is said

Obviously they don't listen to you. At the least I would give you credit for being a serial pest. They deserve you.

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

Whatever.

You are COMPLETELY Delusional

Me, that is quite good coming from the saddest person I have ever encountered, I am actually a realist, hence you won't see me tipping a massive win or a heavy defeat, only comment I made before the game, was we compete we may win, we didn't compete we lost

Whatever is a stock answer from posters on here when they have a complete paucity of debating skill, or resort to name calling

I get where you are coming from Ascobar but these threads come up after every disastrous loss and we have had more of them than I have had hot dinners. Fair dinkum I would have thought us Dees fans would have the thickest skins of all supporters in the AFL such is the trauma we have put ourselves thru in the past decade.

Yes it was yet another totally unacceptable performance yesterday and hopefully a massive wake up call for some of the players who seem to have thought we won a GF last weekend.

Harden up and stick by the club. we are just as likely to have one of the clubs greatest ever victories this year as we are another putrid display like yesterdays.

1 minute ago, america de cali said:

Obviously they don't listen to you. At the least I would give you credit for being a serial pest. They deserve you.

Why do people think footballers are not the same as them, ie human beings (sorry I am on Demonland so I am drawing a long bow there) the players like to have a chat, they appreciate people showing up at training, they also listen if you give them feedback without abuse, you really don't think they know exactly how the supporters feel this morning, oh I forgot the only answer for yesterday is to publically [censored] the players and the coaches in Fed Square, this is only footy, in the big scheme of things if a loss in a footy game is the most important thing in your life, you need to look at your life

3 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Me, that is quite good coming from the saddest person I have ever encountered, I am actually a realist, hence you won't see me tipping a massive win or a heavy defeat, only comment I made before the game, was we compete we may win, we didn't compete we lost

Whatever is a stock answer from posters on here when they have a complete paucity of debating skill, or resort to name calling

You are not worth debating with. Simple as that

we lost to a side that has been together for weeks

half that team had retired by last September. 

 

Just now, Satyriconhome said:

Why do people think footballers are not the same as them, ie human beings (sorry I am on Demonland so I am drawing a long bow there) the players like to have a chat, they appreciate people showing up at training, they also listen if you give them feedback without abuse, you really don't think they know exactly how the supporters feel this morning, oh I forgot the only answer for yesterday is to publically [censored] the players and the coaches in Fed Square, this is only footy, in the big scheme of things if a loss in a footy game is the most important thing in your life, you need to look at your life

For you a loss is less important than smooching with the players no doubt.

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

You are not worth debating with. Simple as that

we lost to a side that has been together for weeks

half that team had retired by last September. 

 

You never SWYL, says more about you than me

Kelly and Stokes were 'forced' to retire, last time I looked they both had arms and legs and could play foofy a bit

2 minutes ago, america de cali said:

For you a loss is less important than smooching with the players no doubt.

It's just sport, same as posting on here, you have winners and losers, people who stand on the sidelines watching, people who abuse, some whose own feelings of inadequacy are patently demonstrated, I chat to the players about soccer, music, comedy, charity work and footy

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

You never SWYL, says more about you than me

Kelly and Stokes were 'forced' to retire, last time I looked they both had arms and legs and could play foofy a bit

That's your best answer is it??

you accept anything that is thrown at you Satyr

always have and always will...

Just a cry for help from the OP.

You'll be right, buddy.

Here's a cuddle.  

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

It's just sport, same as posting on here, you have winners and losers, people who stand on the sidelines watching, people who abuse, some whose own feelings of inadequacy are patently demonstrated, I chat to the players about soccer, music, comedy, charity work and footy

Why rock up to training all the time if a loss like yesterday brings a mere shrug of the shoulders? Clearly you think they are your mates and the club itself is a distant second. 

If you don't really give a stuff then why go? 

Edited April 2, 20169 yr by Wiseblood

11 minutes ago, america de cali said:

For you a loss is less important than smooching with the players no doubt.

Exactly. A dangerous person to have lurking around training...

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

Why rock up to training all the time if a loss like yesterday brings a mere shrug of the shoulders? Clearly you think they are your mates and the club itself is a distant second. 

If you don't really give a stuff then why go? 

I don't regard them as mates, they are just people I know, 

 

5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

That's your best answer is it??

you accept anything that is thrown at you Satyr

always have and always will...

I go to training on my days off, as part of my day out, I take photos to post on Twitter for interstate supporters who appreciate them, I chat to players and other supporters about a myriad of subjects

But I also realise that it is only sport, not the most important thing in the world

I just let it go past me SWYL, I don't whinge about it

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

 

But I also realise that it is only sport, not the most important thing in the world

I just let it go past me SWYL, I don't whinge about it

As i said 

People like you are dangerous lurking around training

it is a social outing to you

& NOTHING MORE...

24 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Me, that is quite good coming from the saddest person I have ever encountered, I am actually a realist, hence you won't see me tipping a massive win or a heavy defeat, only comment I made before the game, was we compete we may win, we didn't compete we lost

Whatever is a stock answer from posters on here when they have a complete paucity of debating skill, or resort to name calling

 

you can't quit just by saying i quit, when Goodwin gets the Defibrillator out & your baby demon starts breathing fire again you will be making plans around match day again. 

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

As i said 

People like you are dangerous lurking around training

it is a social outing to you

& NOTHING MORE...

That's laughable

What more is it supposed to be, I pay my membership (in September), I do a few things with the club, I go to games....I get disappointed with poor performances.....I tell the players about things I wasn't happy with

Don't blame mate.... As a mfc member for 19 yrs & what we have over the last decade I still shake my head at losses like yesterday .. How players come 1/2 switched on to play like that after all the list & coaching changes is beyond me! I question our leadership group & coaching somewhat to all the backslapping & winning 2 in a row etc  but it's the playing group responsibility to to turn up & play FFS .. 

Good luck but I think your perspective will be so much more aligned with reality if you stop reading Demonland and simply check in occasionally with the media who for the most part still realise we're a 7 win/15 th placed team.

i can't believe the Posters on this site that continually slag off "experts" in the media that deliver anything but glowing comments on MFC.

The reality is we're in another slow rebuild after making more horrendous recruiting, coaching & managemnt decisions than any Club has in the last 50 years but the last 10 in particular. 

We dont yet have any true Elite A Grade players and it is correct, we hardly have a player worthy of a top 50 list atm.

Kent, Tyson, McDonald, Vandenberg, etc who get massively overrated on this site are just average to good players.

My point is that by reading D'land too much to get your perspective, you are setting yourself up for major disappointment.