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Journalism with a little bit of research

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Imagine if that poor excuse for a journalist on AFL.com who was real clever showing a side we apparently missed out on, did some research. Rather then showing blokes who were picked 16 picks later how about try the next pick as that shows who the next club thought was the one we missed out on. Makes a whole different story

2006

12. James Frawley (Jack Riewoldt at No.13) - Jack Riewoldt Rich

30. Ricky Petterd (Kurt Tippett, 32) - Clayton Collard Freo

46. Colin Garland (Robbie Gray, 55) - Kyle Riemers Ess

62. Isaac Weetra (Tyson Goldsack, 63) - Tyson Goldsack Coll

2007

4. Cale Morton (Patrick Dangerfield, 10) - Jarrod Grant Foots

14. Jack Grimes (Callan Ward, 19) - Robbie Tarrent Nth Melb

21. Addam Maric (Scott Selwood, 22) - Scott Selwood WC

53. Kyle Cheney (Cale Hooker, 54) - Cale Hooker ESS

66. Tom McNamara - Kepler Bradley Freo

2008

1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2) - Nic Nat WC

17. Sam Blease (Luke Shuey, 18) - Luke Shuey WC

19. James Strauss (Hayden Ballantyne, 21) - Tom Swift WC

35. Jamie Bennell (Steven Motlop, 39) - Ashley Smith WC

51. Neville Jetta (Michael Walters, 53) - Jordan Jones WC

64. Rohan Bail - Rhys Okeefe Carl

2009

1. Tom Scully (Dustin Martin, 3)

2. Jack Trengove (Ben Cunnington, 5) - Dustin Martin Rich

11. Jordan Gysberts (Daniel Talia, 13) - Kane Lucas Carl

18. Luke Tapscott (Nat Fyfe, 20) - Benjamin Griffiths Rich

34. Max Gawn (Allen Christensen, 40) - David Astbury Rich

50. Jack Fitzpatrick (Taylor Duryea, 69) - Troy Taylor Rich

2010

12. Lucas Cook (Brodie Smith, 14) - Seb Tape Gold coast

33. Jeremy Howe (Luke Parker, 40) - Patrick Mc carthy Carl

50. Troy Davis (Paul Puopolo, 66) - Dean Mc Donald Rich

53. Tom McDonald - Jordon Schroeder Geel

2011

36. Rory Taggert (Jack Newnes, 37) - Jackk Newnes St K

52. Josh Tynan (Lachie Neale, 58) - Alex Woodward Haw

54. James Sellar (Cameron Sutcliffe, 71) - Matthew Arnott Rich

2012

4. Jimmy Toumpas (Ollie Wines, 7) - Jake Stringer WB

26. Jack Viney - James Stewart GWS

48. Dean Kent - Joshua Prudden WB

52. Matt Jones - Martin Gleeson Ess

68. Dean Terlich - Michael Osborne Haw

Edited by demonwithin

 

The footy media has "Melbourne's rubbish drafting" on auto-print as they keep churning out tedious filler. But this last sad effort is even more cruddy that usual.

 
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Formatting please!

I'm not smart enough to know how to format it better from the table it came in !!!!

Will have another crack

It does look terrible :)

I did a spreadsheet no idea how to get it on here but basically it worked to a set of rules:

Picks 1-4 - comparison 3 picks below

5-13 - 5 picks

14-20 - 7

21-30 - 10

31- 50 - 15

51-100 - 20

Much fairer assesment


The individual pick comparison is definitely a misleading and stupid one.

Obviously, the overall draft result tells an emphatic story but these dumb articles and the hand-wringing about 'oh, we could have had Jesus on the half-forward flank and Gilgamesh rucking" just don't add anything to the world.

That AFL.com article is flawed beyond say year one, 2006. Had MFC recruited those players in 2006,2007 instead of the ones actually drafted, you immediately have different players making up the playing group, and then different outcomes at the end of that season, a different ladder placing at the end of each season, and therefore different picks the following years, which immediately makes his comparisons in subsequent years irrelevant. So if MFC had in fact recruited Tippett, Gray, Dangerfield and the like in 2006/07, as suggested in the article, and those players led to better performances and more wins, the club wouldn't have had the high picks in the following years to have picked all those players that he's listed and claims that the club missed, over all those subsequent years.

 

That AFL.com article is flawed beyond say year one, 2006. Had MFC recruited those players in 2006,2007 instead of the ones actually drafted, you immediately have different players making up the playing group, and then different outcomes at the end of that season, a different ladder placing at the end of each season, and therefore different picks the following years, which immediately makes his comparisons in subsequent years irrelevant. So if MFC had in fact recruited Tippett, Gray, Dangerfield and the like in 2006/07, as suggested in the article, and those players led to better performances and more wins, the club wouldn't have had the high picks in the following years to have picked all those players that he's listed and claims that the club missed, over all those subsequent years.

Why are you applying logic here?

This made too much sense.

Imagine if that poor excuse for a journalist on AFL.com who was real clever showing a side we apparently missed out on, did some research. Rather then showing blokes who were picked 16 picks later how about try the next pick as that shows who the next club thought was the one we missed out on. Makes a whole different story

2006

12. James Frawley (Jack Riewoldt at No.13) - Jack Riewoldt Rich

30. Ricky Petterd (Kurt Tippett, 32) - Clayton Collard Freo

46. Colin Garland (Robbie Gray, 55) - Kyle Riemers Ess

62. Isaac Weetra (Tyson Goldsack, 63) - Tyson Goldsack Coll

2007

4. Cale Morton (Patrick Dangerfield, 10) - Jarrod Grant Foots

14. Jack Grimes (Callan Ward, 19) - Robbie Tarrent Nth Melb

21. Addam Maric (Scott Selwood, 22) - Scott Selwood WC

53. Kyle Cheney (Cale Hooker, 54) - Cale Hooker ESS

66. Tom McNamara - Kepler Bradley Freo

2008

1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2) - Nic Nat WC

17. Sam Blease (Luke Shuey, 18) - Luke Shuey WC

19. James Strauss (Hayden Ballantyne, 21) - Tom Swift WC

35. Jamie Bennell (Steven Motlop, 39) - Ashley Smith WC

51. Neville Jetta (Michael Walters, 53) - Jordan Jones WC

64. Rohan Bail - Rhys Okeefe Carl

2009

1. Tom Scully (Dustin Martin, 3)

2. Jack Trengove (Ben Cunnington, 5) - Dustin Martin Rich

11. Jordan Gysberts (Daniel Talia, 13) - Kane Lucas Carl

18. Luke Tapscott (Nat Fyfe, 20) - Benjamin Griffiths Rich

34. Max Gawn (Allen Christensen, 40) - David Astbury Rich

50. Jack Fitzpatrick (Taylor Duryea, 69) - Troy Taylor Rich

2010

12. Lucas Cook (Brodie Smith, 14) - Seb Tape Gold coast

33. Jeremy Howe (Luke Parker, 40) - Patrick Mc carthy Carl

50. Troy Davis (Paul Puopolo, 66) - Dean Mc Donald Rich

53. Tom McDonald - Jordon Schroeder Geel

2011

36. Rory Taggert (Jack Newnes, 37) - Jackk Newnes St K

52. Josh Tynan (Lachie Neale, 58) - Alex Woodward Haw

54. James Sellar (Cameron Sutcliffe, 71) - Matthew Arnott Rich

2012

4. Jimmy Toumpas (Ollie Wines, 7) - Jake Stringer WB

26. Jack Viney - James Stewart GWS

48. Dean Kent - Joshua Prudden WB

52. Matt Jones - Martin Gleeson Ess

68. Dean Terlich - Michael Osborne Haw

2008

1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2) - Nic Nat WC

17. Sam Blease (Luke Shuey, 18) - Luke Shuey WCthe

the Eagles must love us


2008

1. Jack Watts (Nic Naitanui, 2) - Nic Nat WC

17. Sam Blease (Luke Shuey, 18) - Luke Shuey WCthe

the Eagles must love us

Don't forget 2007 when they went cold on Morton and grabbed Masten at 3 who has turned into a solid player and then in 2008 we take Maric and leave them Selwood. They love us alright! At the time I thought it interesting that they were tracking us in the 2007, 2008 drafts for early picks when they had won a flag in 2006! A mixture of pretty blatant tanking and the Judd deal.

The individual pick comparison is definitely a misleading and stupid one.

Obviously, the overall draft result tells an emphatic story but these dumb articles and the hand-wringing about 'oh, we could have had Jesus on the half-forward flank and Gilgamesh rucking" just don't add anything to the world.

Good player that Gilgamesh. Don't know much about that Jesus fellow..

This article could be written about any club. They all miss out on good players.

Good player that Gilgamesh. Don't know much about that Jesus fellow..

You're such a Jesus hater. Give him a solid pre-season and you'll see he'll be a star.

Unfair to compare him to Gilgamesh as he is a completely different body type. Some blokes are just built more solidly and excel earlier in their careers.

Jesus will be fine, don't worry about him. Gilgamesh has already hit his ceiling.

At least we didn't draft Mithras. What a joke he turned out to be.


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