We all know how our past draft picks have worked out. After so many years of mediocracy this time of the year for most of us, is one of hope and genuine excitement.

If you choose to be so negative about it, then that's also your choice.

I have never had a problem with hope - I have a problem on sweeping pronouncements based on little.

I am always excited about new players - it coincides with the preseason where we are burning up the track and are full of optimism for the upcoming season. However I stay well clear of pronouncements about how we have picked up "guns and superstars" in the draft before they have even kicked at ball at the highest level. Posters making such pronouncements have learned nothing from history.

It is clear to me that this current regime has learned plenty from history and their other club experiences. The very expensive outlay on player development staff tells me that.

Are we there yet?

How many more sleeps?

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Are Petracca's hips a risk? Could that be why Saints are turning him down?

In Topic: AFL National Draft 2014 Picks 2 & 3

Yesterday, 12:16 PM

Saints supporters reckon Petracca will leave for Collingwood in 2 years. I tend to agree, he doesn't seem the loyal type.

This was on bigfooty from a Saints supporter and made me laugh. After I stopped laughing I figured out he was 100% right.

"In 9 hours, we find out if Petracca is a very driven, highly talented gun and McCartin is a fat, one dimensional lump, or if McCartin is the second coming of Plugger and Petracca is an arrogant [censored]!"

Maybe Christian is one smart cookie.. Facing the prospect of setting up home at the swamp with cellar dwelling St Kilda he 'pulls' a hammy in the 3km....duds his psych eval with the Aints thus all but ensuring he'll get snagged by that promising up and coming mob , Melbourne playing alongside some good buddies.

Clever bloke !!

Having said that there were a few on here who were really keen on Dayle Gartlett.

Bit different though, DG was pick 38.. not pick 2. An attitude risk is more acceptable for a compete gun player IMO. A better comparison is Dustin Martin - the tiges haven't lived to regret that one (yet)

I'm excited by what drafting Petracca and Brayshaw, along with the recruitment of Newton, does for our midfield profile.

Previously I was a bit concerned about the lack of size, with one of our best contested ball winners being Viney.

Tyson, Brayshaw, Petracca, Newton, dare I say it, Trengove and Watts, all tall prototypical midfielders.

And Michie, Riley, Jones, Vince all are now the smaller-to-medium mids.

It bodes well.

Agree with this 100% Hawks, Freo, Cats, Swans, North all big bodied midfields. Thats what we're up against and where we need to head.

Be nice for Kent and/or JKH to really step up and give us some real outside pace

From TJ in 97 through to Jimmy Toumpas - I've learned to cool my jets over the years

Yep.. I watch these highlight packages and read the various superlative-laced reviews, waxing lyrical on these 'future superstars' and I tell myself 'remember Cale Morton'

I'm excited by what drafting Petracca and Brayshaw, along with the recruitment of Newton, does for our midfield profile.

Previously I was a bit concerned about the lack of size, with one of our best contested ball winners being Viney.

Tyson, Brayshaw, Petracca, Newton, dare I say it, Trengove and Watts, all tall prototypical midfielders.

And Michie, Riley, Jones, Vince all are now the smaller-to-medium mids.

It bodes well.

I can't be as confident.. excluding Jones and Vince (who will be on the downhill in a couple of years) our only genuine, healthy, young midfielders are Tyson and Viney. Everybody else is an also-ran. That's why it is absolutely imperative that we nail the development of this year's duo (and imperative that the Saints pick McCartin)

A good senior footballer is very much in the lap of the Gods.

The aforementioned 'Gods' being P.Jackson, P.Roos, S.Goodwin etc

In the past we've seemingly had a penchant for drafting kids who were lightweights wringing wet.

Both our likely prospects are near 6'2 in old coin ...and SOLID !! They will only get STRONGER. Why, because they'll bloody make sure of it.

Im excited about both these kids ripping it up in the middle ....mainly in '16 onwards

anything else is a bonus.

Both these kids hit others hard...almost relish it. Pleasant change

This was on bigfooty from a Saints supporter and made me laugh. After I stopped laughing I figured out he was 100% right.

"In 9 hours, we find out if Petracca is a very driven, highly talented gun and McCartin is a fat, one dimensional lump, or if McCartin is the second coming of Plugger and Petracca is an arrogant [censored]!"

I would add to it that for the next 10 years the pendulum will swing back and forth between the Saints being recruitment geniuses and absolute dummies

In the past we've seemingly had a penchant for drafting kids who were lightweights wringing wet.

Both our likely prospects are near 6'2 in old coin ...and SOLID !! They will only get STRONGER. Why, because they'll bloody make sure of it.

Im excited about both these kids ripping it up in the middle ....mainly in '16 onwards

anything else is a bonus.

Both these kids hit others hard...almost relish it. Pleasant change

That is one thing I've thought of as well. Scully was small.....like a rat, Morton was probably the skinniest player to be drafted since Josh Thurgood and the picture of Gysberts trying to do some triceps weights makes me laugh every time.

Thank god these guys are big boys.

In the past we've seemingly had a penchant for drafting kids who were lightweights wringing wet.

Both our likely prospects are near 6'2 in old coin ...and SOLID !! They will only get STRONGER. Why, because they'll bloody make sure of it.

Im excited about both these kids ripping it up in the middle ....mainly in '16 onwards

anything else is a bonus.

Both these kids hit others hard...almost relish it. Pleasant change

Good point - with all the talk of us trying to get Dangerfield/J.Kennedy you wonder if that bigger midfield type is the one to go for, the one Roos prefers

Good point - with all the talk of us trying to get Dangerfield/J.Kennedy you wonder if that bigger midfield type is the one to go for, the one Roos prefers

They are a lot more like the supposedly "prototype" spoken of arent they

I recently got rid of sports channel. Can someone please tell me how i can watch this live online? PLEASE!

I recently got rid of sports channel. Can someone please tell me how i can watch this live online? PLEASE!

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I recently got rid of sports channel. Can someone please tell me how i can watch this live online? PLEASE!

Think you have to be a subscriber to AFL app or website.

Il be listening via radio online,

Edited November 27, 201411 yr by dazzledavey36

I recently got rid of sports channel. Can someone please tell me how i can watch this live online? PLEASE!

Check your private messages Mon

Bit different though, DG was pick 38.. not pick 2. An attitude risk is more acceptable for a compete gun player IMO. A better comparison is Dustin Martin - the tiges haven't lived to regret that one (yet)

I thought someone may bring up Martin.

There are some on that maintain their rage as to why we didn't take him. He was clearly not rated in the same rankings as Scully and Trengove ( you know what I think of ratings) and whilst he was a risk on attitude it was not that held him back as being in the class of the other two - from my reading, it was purely based on that analysis that he wasn't as a good a footballer.

Darling is the other that comes to mind and he definitely dropped in value due to the perceived problems.

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Thanks man!

That is one thing I've thought of as well. Scully was small.....like a rat, Morton was probably the skinniest player to be drafted since Josh Thurgood and the picture of Gysberts trying to do some triceps weights makes me laugh every time.

Thank god these guys are big boys.

meh - Jack Martin looks the goods so far 185cm talk and 71kgs..

You can either play football or your can't.

I thought someone may bring up Martin.

There are some on that maintain their rage as to why we didn't take him. He was clearly not rated in the same rankings as Scully and Trengove ( you know what I think of ratings) and whilst he was a risk on attitude it was not that held him back as being in the class of the other two - from my reading, it was purely based on that analysis that he wasn't as a good a footballer.

Darling is the other that comes to mind and he definitely dropped in value due to the perceived problems.

yeah I didn't mean it as a critique on the club for not drafting martin.. those picks, like the other 5 (mclean, sylvia, watts, morton, toumpas) we have had in the top5 over the last decade were all auto-selections and absolutely no surprise to anyone at the time.

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In Topic: AFL National Draft 2014 Picks 2 & 3

Yesterday, 12:16 PM

Saints supporters reckon Petracca will leave for Collingwood in 2 years. I tend to agree, he doesn't seem the loyal type.

Idk what I said that hurt you personally, but LIGHTEN UP PRINCESS! Life is too short to be angry at the smallest things. Anyhow, getting banned doesn't sound like a bad idea!

I recently got rid of sports channel. Can someone please tell me how i can watch this live online? PLEASE!

Dw guys! No need to panic! I decided to just get sports channel again.

Edit: but thanks HH, it's really much appreciated.

Edited November 27, 201411 yr by Moneider96