Frawley does all the hard work in a contest then forgets to try and mark the ball.

Derm mistaking Barry for Jetta, doesn't bother correcting himself.

Says a lot...

Jack Watts is irrelevant at the best of times and a flat out liability at the worst. That time he was only irrelevant. Even Brad Johnson has cottoned on to it now.

Barry getting a real lesson down back.

Watts on the other hand, is playing his usual lackluster game.

Barry getting a real lesson down back.

Watts on the other hand, is playing his usual lackluster game.

Barry will learn. Watts won't.

Watts and Barry are costing us goals. Put them forward!

If Max Gawn could mark half the balls he almost marks, he will be very very dangerous.

Ilikeing Gawn everytime I see him. He is an absolute target up front and has great hands.

My kingdom for Luke Hodge's kicking skills.

You can forgive Barry, not Watts. Lazy and soft. Will never be any different.

Barry experiment down back is too dangerous against Hawthorn. We can't really afford this sort of match up when we are barely treading water here.

Problem is, no Grimes and no Terlich. Who goes to him?

Game over now.

Edited August 9, 201411 yr by Jaded

That's all folks!

Need to look to offload Watts. It's been fun but it hasn't worked.

Barry experiment down back is too dangerous against Hawthorn. We can't really afford this sort of match up when we are barely treading water here.

Problem is, no Grimes and no Terlich. Who goes to him?

But it makes no difference. Why not try him against the best? Great way for him to learn.

Has Watts ever delivered the ball inside 50 from a center clearance? Every time he gets a handball from a clearance he looks backwards for anoher handball. He should have gone forward there. He looked sideways and it cost us a goal..

His lethargy in disposing the ball is very obvious. Why can't many of you see it?

Edited August 9, 201411 yr by praha

Dom Barry is doing ok.

Hill works top level players over.

The guy is a seriously elite athlete, he works over elite AFL athletes.

Considering Barry has only played a few games, it is no disgrace to be worked over by Hill.

As for Watts, well.. Jack just needs to ask Viney what this game of football is about.

Maybe get Todd to work with him for a year, because Watts just doesn't know basic football.

Jack Watts doesn't seem to understand that you can't have the same intensity you have at training during a game.

He had five metres on his opponent then; but because he was jogging with the ball instead of running, by the time he figured out who he wanted to kick to, his opponent was right up his clacker and he had to handpass it instead...and even then the handpass was so poor that the ball got turned over.

Need to look to offload Watts. It's been fun but it hasn't worked.

It hasn't been fun at all. Frustrating as hell

M Jones' kick broke the resistance. We had been pretty bravw till then. I fear the worst from here.

Now we are starting to cop a belting, this is where we see who stays - and who goes.

Players need to dig in now. Some would be playing for their careers.

Have I landed in the Hawthorn vs. Jack Watts thread here? We can't trade him away otherwise half the posters here won't have anything to dribble about each week.

The flood gates have creaked open.

Training drill...

A game like this so close to the end of the year will be a death knell for anyone Paul Roos wasn't sure about. If you value your career, you will do anything you can to be competitive for the next hour.

Have I landed in the Hawthorn vs. Jack Watts thread here? We can't trade him away otherwise half the posters here won't have anything to dribble about each week.

The problem is that people talk him up, and then his contribution is well below the value dictated by the passion of those that approve of him. He is awful. He is to Melbourne what Ottens was to Richmond. We have this discussion every year. He is very average.