What is it with Demonland posting half our posts twice all the time?

I think it is when you have a slow connection, or possibly when D'land is overstressed, and one gets impatient and hits Post more than once.

Relentless pressure from the opening bounce

Roos is more into team defense. He will definitely have match ups planned, but the match ups are only the basis for the back six + midfielders to defend that part of the ground as a body of players. Pendlebury is the worry for me. He is so creative and influential and I can't see anyone from the Dees having the nous or class to match him or beat him.

I reckon both sides match up across the 22 pretty well, but I give the Pies the edge in the middle. The balance of the game lies with players like Swan, Elliot, Fasolo or Salem, JKH, Bail who will make the game for one side or the other. Smaller players finding space to run into to kick goals.

We are a genuine chance in this game, but we keep losing very winnable games by small margins.

Gotta want it more

Relentless pressure from the opening bounce

This. I'm not worried about the match ups per se. Let's remember who made Collingwood look ordinary this year and how they did it - Freo with their press in Round 1, and Adelaide with their overall ferocity at the man and the ball at the Adelaide Oval. I'm less confident than others on here because I think the Pies are a very consistent side who are tough to beat but if we can be thereabouts at 3/4 time, you never know.

You can't allow Collingwood to control our forward 50m arc. They zone off and create from Half Back, you stop that we win.

You can't allow Collingwood to control our forward 50m arc. They zone off and create from Half Back, you stop that we win.

Exactly ..... and the absence of Maxwell should work in our favour.

They have alot of weapons Elliot will need attention and Harriter ( Harry O )needs a defensive match up.

For mine its one from left field Garlo on Elliot and Bail tight on Harry O with a view to work him with relentless running almost in a decoy foward role.

They have alot of weapons Elliot will need attention and Harriter ( Harry O )needs a defensive match up. For mine its one from left field Garlo on Elliot and Bail tight on Harry O with a view to work him with relentless running almost in a decoy foward role.

I'd put Watts on Harry-o, sure Harry can run off but if he doesn't do something with it he is leaving a quality forward on his own in a dangerous spot, back our defence to stop Harry- o and turn their weapon into a weakness

They have alot of weapons Elliot will need attention and Harriter ( Harry O )needs a defensive match up. For mine its one from left field Garlo on Elliot and Bail tight on Harry O with a view to work him with relentless running almost in a decoy foward role.

Put Howe on Harry O, make him accountable but also go through him make Harry O man Howe up. Elliot, Jetta gets first crack. The year we drew and lost by a couple of points to them, what we did was go through Shaws and Maxwell's man, it made them man up and every time the zoned we hit there man, Petterd in the first game was this and it made them be accountable.

I'm pretty confident that Tmac will have first go at Cloke.

Hope Dawes has a big day in front of goal. When was the last time a Dee kicked a big bag?

Hope Dawes has a big day in front of goal. When was the last time a Dee kicked a big bag?

Clark kicked five against GWS in the first half, before getting injured. Blease also kicked five, but it's been a while. I hope so too.

Hope Dawes has a big day in front of goal. When was the last time a Dee kicked a big bag?

Watts kicked 4 a couple of times last year, lots of 2's otherwise

the russian got 5 Carlton, 22nd Aug 2009

very good question - when was the last time someone kicked 6 or more, haddabeen Neitzy around 2005ish????

jetta might be better on elliot and garlo on fasolo. sizes match up a bit better too.