Bad Kicking cost them.

Dam it.

Hate Whorethorn...

It has cost just about every losing Grand Final team in the past decade. Luke Breust must thankful he didn't have any set shots today.

This my tip from yesterday:

Hawks by 13. I want Freo to win and will be barracking very hard for them in from of the tele. But the Hawks will win because:

1. Freo's impressive wins over the past 2 weeks have come on very narrow grounds, which has suited their choking, manic press very well. The MCG is very wide, almost a circle, and this means the defensive press gaps are wider and Freo have to run more to fill these spaces. Hawks kicking skills will find a way through these gaps.

2. One of Roughhead, Franklin or Gunston will kick 4-5 goals. I can't see Freo's defence successfully covering all three.

3. They will attack Crowley and give him the worst 2 hours of his life. I wouldn't be surprised if they "take him out", or hassle him so much he is subbed off. Mitchell could end up with 30+ possessions.

David Mundy for the Norm Smith.

Not far off - and Mundy played well.

Ballantyne and Pierce - absolute shocking games.

Bad kicking has cost so many side premierships over the past 20 years - extraordinary.

Lyon 4 Grand Finals for 4 losses.

Were a happy team at HAWTHORN.

This team is what I want the Dees to be in 2018.

I enjoyed that almost as much as if it was the Dees.

Go Hawks

Were a happy team at HAWTHORN.

This team is what I want the Dees to be in 2018.

I enjoyed that almost as much as if it was the Dees.

Go Hawks

I've hated Hawthorn since they beat us in the prelim in 1961.

I've hated Hawthorn since they beat us in the prelim in 1961.

Not me Robbie they are what we should have been for the last 49 years.

Alas we have been run by very ordinary operators for 40 of those years.

Hawthorn are the objective for the MFC IMO.

Thank **** that season is over.

Thank **** that season is over.

Good result today BH it was not a total disaster.

(He says grasping at straws )

Thank **** that season is over.

Sadly, it never really started for us.

Sadly, it never really started for us.

Sadly that may be the most truthful thing said on Demonland today Bbo.

Very over rated, so many teams win in their first go at it. Geelong 2007, Hawthorn 2008, Sydney 2012 (very few left from 2005) all with coached by first up GF coaches as well.

If I could be bothered I would find the figures that would show the Geelong and Hawthorn flags aren't the norm The Swans lost one in 06 as well.

Experience counted today with turnovers and golakicking yips costing Freo when they clearly had the team to win that game.

Freo are going to be a powerhouse for a while to come.

Edited September 28, 201311 yr by dandeeman

If I could be bothered I would find the figures that would show the Geelong and Hawthorn aren't the norm The Swans one is befuddling

Experience counted today with turnovers and golakicking yips costing Freo when they clearly had the team to win that game.

Freo are going to be a powerhouse for a while to come.

Not sure about that Dan. The Big Pav and The Monster are getting on/injuries. Difficult guys to replace.

If I could be bothered I would find the figures that would show the Geelong and Hawthorn aren't the norm The Swans one is befuddling

Experience counted today with turnovers and golakicking yips costing Freo when they clearly had the team to win that game.

Freo are going to be a powerhouse for a while to come.

Not sure about that, whilst some of their young talent is very good much of their spine (Pavlich, Sandilands, Mundy and McPharlin) are around that 30 year age range.

EDIT: BBO beat me to it.

Edited September 28, 201311 yr by Clint Bizkit

Can someone tell me how I find one of my old posts where I mentioned earlier this year that Fremantle would win the flag? I just want to see what date it was that I made that call, and find the poster/s that questioned my judgement.

For the purpose of this thread, I haven't changed my view.

Guess the other poster/s was right about your "judgement".

Hawthorn. Ugh. Pack of pr!cks (except Sam Mitchell)

Hawthorn. Ugh. Pack of pr!cks (except Sam Mitchell)

I look forward to the day the MFC is described in the same way!

I hate Hawthorn I wish we were as strong as the. though

If I could be bothered I would find the figures that would show the Geelong and Hawthorn flags aren't the norm The Swans lost one in 06 as well.

Experience counted today with turnovers and golakicking yips costing Freo when they clearly had the team to win that game.

Freo are going to be a powerhouse for a while to come.

I could put the Collingwood 2010 flag in there as well plus their 1990 one, the Swans didn't have many left of their 2006 squad, Brisbane's first one, Port's first one. It really doesn't matter, I thought the Hawks would win because they were the better team all year as they were today and they did. Things like GF experience are really overrated.

A lot of teams lose GF's and come up the next year and a lot of teams win them at their first attempt, you just have to take your chances when you get a shot.

I've hated Hawthorn since they beat us in the prelim in 1961.

That's a lot of hate going way back Robbie! But i hate them 2. More because of the 1987 prelim!

The pressers became the pressed.

The tacklers became the tackled.

A brown and yellow haze on the field.

Hawthorn played it on their terms. Won the clearances and never let the Dockers clog up the play too much.

Men have to know their limitations!

Rubbish game from Freo - in particular Dawson, Fyfe and Ballantyne.

Inexperience and nerves cost what could have very easily have been theirs.

Look out next year! But they'll be playing us won't they?

Rubbish game from Freo - in particular Dawson, Fyfe and Ballantyne.

Inexperience and nerves cost what could have very easily have been theirs.

Yes, a couple of early goals from Fyfe ........ and who knows?

Fyfe has lost my love!