Kennett wants Clarkson gone, so he is as good as gone from Hawthorn.

Would Clarkson be a guy that we would look at, if Neeld continues to fail this year?

This is not a snap reaction, replace Mark Neeld right now thread.

But if Clarkson is available at the end of the year, is he a better option than Neeld?

We seen what happened at Fremantle, when Harvey got replaced by a better man.

Clarkson is an angry man, maybe we need an aggressive coach.

Thoughts?

Clarkson is a better coach than Neeld, so yes. However an important consideration is the stability of the club. Sacking Neeld would be extremely instabalizing, so it would have to be a measure of last resort.

Clarkson is a better coach than Neeld, so yes. However an important consideration is the stability of the club. Sacking Neeld would be extremely instabalizing, so it would have to be a measure of last resort.

I agree, but I also agree with what Mark Robinson is saying on 360 at the moment - as much as I hate Robbo.

He says, if we are still playing like this in a months time, then Mark Neeld has to go, I don't disagree with that.

We tried hard to get him before Neeld.

He was G Lyons first choice.

He decided to stay. But a second bite may do it if Neeld doesn't improve.

Clarkson is not the answer - end of story - no further comment necessary!

I agree, but I also agree with what Mark Robinson is saying on 360 at the moment - as much as I hate Robbo.

He says, if we are still playing like this in a months time, then Mark Neeld has to go, I don't disagree with that.

So the bloody players get away with playing the same card as they did with Bailey and get to take another scalp? I don't think so!

This mess is right in the players faces, they are the one who have to fix it.

Flop me dead. This is like asking if Justin Leppitsch should ask Sofia Vergara out on a date. We are a festering toilet bowl at the moment and if we could click our fingers tomorrow and have Clarkson coach our Round 2 game and onwards it would be the greatest development this club has seen since writing the rules of the game. If there was any chance of this happening at the end of the season, we'd have to throw everything at him. No doubt we'd hire Jason Akermanis instead if his PowerPoint blew the interview panel away.

So the bloody players get away with playing the same card as they did with Bailey and get to take another scalp? I don't think so!

This mess is right in the players faces, they are the one who have to fix it.

That's the thing, if they don't play for Neeld though, how will this be fixed?

They didn't play for Bailey, so he had to go.

If coaches can't get the best out of players - regardless of their talent - then the coach will be sacked.

I am not anti-Neeld, it's only first week, I was just throwing up a future scenario, if Clarkson is available come years end.

Because, chances are that he will be available, he hasn't done a bad job at Hawthorn - he just hasn't won as many flags as they'd of liked.

He has got them up there consistantly and has a record of rebuilding that club from the bottom on up.

Roos and Clarkson are proven rebuilders.

Paul Roo's would be the pinnacle, but Clarkson would be a good get.

Personally, I am not for untried coaches, it was a risky move - it's not like we were in such a position to make such a move.

Our board should be accountable to some extent as well.

Of course. I would b stupid not to go 4 him

Kennett wants Clarkson gone, so he is as good as gone from Hawthorn.

Would Clarkson be a guy that we would look at, if Neeld continues to fail this year?

This is not a snap reaction, replace Mark Neeld right now thread.

But if Clarkson is available at the end of the year, is he a better option than Neeld?

We seen what happened at Fremantle, when Harvey got replaced by a better man.

Clarkson is an angry man, maybe we need an aggressive coach.

Thoughts?

He coached me for a while. He is one aggressive lad, and it is his way or the highway. Doesn't matter if you are the number one goal scorer, if you give attitude, you are on the bench.

I don't know if I could handle another rebuild.

That's the thing, if they don't play for Neeld though, how will this be fixed?

They didn't play for Bailey, so he had to go.

If coaches can't get the best out of players - regardless of their talent - then the coach will be sacked.

I am not anti-Neeld, it's only first week, I was just throwing up a future scenario, if Clarkson is available come years end.

Because, chances are that he will be available, he hasn't done a bad job at Hawthorn - he just hasn't won as many flags as they'd of liked.

He has got them up there consistantly and has a record of rebuilding that club from the bottom on up.

Roos and Clarkson are proven rebuilders.

Paul Roo's would be the pinnacle, but Clarkson would be a good get.

Personally, I am not for untried coaches, it was a risky move - it's not like we were in such a position to make such a move.

Our board should be accountable to some extent as well.

Proven v. Unproven coaches is a separate issue and worthy of separate thought at another time. I'll grant you that. For the moment however we have experienced coaches ( Refer Craig /Rawlings ) but its the blokes who pull on the boots who essentially determine the outcome. They were woeful yesterday IMO and they have nowhere to hide.

If we got rid of Neeld at the end of the year, one year before his contract expires, I'd be VERY surprised if any coach of any proven ability would go near us with a 40 foot pole.

If Neeld was sacked at the end of the season, it would only be as a result of finishing on the bottom of the ladder, and I reckon we'd all be following the Tassie Demons in 2014.

If we got rid of Neeld at the end of the year, one year before his contract expires, I'd be VERY surprised if any coach of any proven ability would go near us with a 40 foot pole.

If Neeld was sacked at the end of the season, it would only be as a result of finishing on the bottom of the ladder, and I reckon we'd all be following the Tassie Demons in 2014.

Agreed. Any change of coach would only happen in a Lyon-esque under-the-table smoke and daggers behind the windows type of deal. We would be absolutely insane to sell our house without having another already lined up. We'd be pretty likely to end up homeless if we did.

we offered him a 5 year, 5 million dollar contract but he stayed at the Hawks and we sadly had to settle for Neeld

Sometime during this sason we need to make Clarkson an offer he cant refuse

So the bloody players get away with playing the same card as they did with Bailey and get to take another scalp? I don't think so!

This mess is right in the players faces, they are the one who have to fix it.

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I don't know if I could handle another rebuild.

If we got a master coach instead of another untried assistant we might not need another rebuild.

If we got rid of Neeld at the end of the year, one year before his contract expires, I'd be VERY surprised if any coach of any proven ability would go near us with a 40 foot pole.

If Neeld was sacked at the end of the season, it would only be as a result of finishing on the bottom of the ladder, and I reckon we'd all be following the Tassie Demons in 2014.

You really don't get it Moonshadow - we are talking about Neeld going now, or in four weeks time, or mid-year. The situation is much more serious than you appear to realise - and just keep in mind, there is always someone willing to take on a job - everyone is expendable.

Roos

Clarkson is a good freind of Viney and a former Demon.

If we continue to play like this Neeld will be gone and Al will be a big chance to coach us.

You really don't get it Moonshadow - we are talking about Neeld going now, or in four weeks time, or mid-year. The situation is much more serious than you appear to realise - and just keep in mind, there is always someone willing to take on a job - everyone is expendable.

If you think Neeld is going anywhere before the end of the season (round 16 at the earliest), I think it's you who doesn't get it.

If we got rid of Neeld at the end of the year, one year before his contract expires, I'd be VERY surprised if any coach of any proven ability would go near us with a 40 foot pole.

If Neeld was sacked at the end of the season, it would only be as a result of finishing on the bottom of the ladder, and I reckon we'd all be following the Tassie Demons in 2014.

I don't know about that.

Mark Harvey would be chomping at the bit.

Chocco Williams would coach again.

Paul Roo's would give it consideration I think.

Clarkson would take the gig if Hawthorn off him.

The thing is, there is a lot of proven coaches out there and they would take the job.

Why on earth we went for an unproven coach, just baffles me.

And, I have actually been a Neeld fan, but it's now looking like the experts were right when they critisized the choice.

I will say, I was wrong - at least so far - and the blokes had a year and is giving us nothing Bailey couldn't

Actually, at least Bailey had us attacking.

You really don't get it Moonshadow - we are talking about Neeld going now, or in four weeks time, or mid-year. The situation is much more serious than you appear to realise - and just keep in mind, there is always someone willing to take on a job - everyone is expendable.

If you think Neeld will be shown the door now, ie, after round one, then you need to "get it" Hardnut. Let me remind you, it is round 1. It's not going to happen. I am fully aware how bad we have been for many years, but getting rid of Neeld is not a good thing to do now or in 4 weeks. It will fix nothing, particularly as AC has refused $1mill p/a for 5 yrs from us already. Lets be calm for a minute. Round 1. Just over a third of the way though MNs contract. Yep, there is always someone willing to take a job, but we're not after just anyone, are we? I get it, but I'm not going to agree that we should throw the baby out with the bath water. Sure, lets all vent a little, show some emotion at a big loss, but that should not cause us to stray from the course. If you think the situation is "much more serious", then you need to take a holiday for a while until things settle down and the lynching mob leave.

If Clarkson was appointed to MFC in a coaching capacity, we'd need 10 plasterers on stand-by.

I don't know about that.

Mark Harvey would be chomping at the bit.

Chocco Williams would coach again.

Paul Roo's would give it consideration I think.

Clarkson would take the gig if Hawthorn off him.

The thing is, there is a lot of proven coaches out there and they would take the job.

Why on earth we went for an unproven coach, just baffles me.

And, I have actually been a Neeld fan, but it's now looking like the experts were right when they critisized the choice.

I will say, I was wrong - at least so far - and the blokes had a year and is giving us nothing Bailey couldn't

Actually, at least Bailey had us attacking.

What rock did you crawl out from? Can you read? The experts almost always said Neeld was a very good coach-in-waiting before his appointment. Anyone who has been coached by him or who supervised his coaching has praised him. Do you not remember that we threw the bank at Clarkson and he wouldn't budge. Roos virtually laughed at us, and has been a strong MFC critic for a long time. And as for Mark Harvey, bwahahaha! The guy can barely make a 3 word sentence.

One thing I will agree with you is that you definitely are wrong.