I don't understand why Viney went west. A few days earlier he was saying how he was at school during the bidding process.

Was he wagging?

I don't mind trading pick 4 for Daniel Rich ,has anyone checked out his YouTube clips? Elite foot skills , runs hard and can spread , tough courageous and can find the footy , has improved on dealing with a hard tag , he is also a goal kicking mid and can thump them from well outside 50, still only, 22-23 so fits our age demographic nicely , what's not to like about him ? In saying that though Olly Wines or Toumaps or O'Rourke at Pick 4 would be fantastic aswell !!!!

Add me on ignore already like you said you would, you quoting every post i make with unconstructive replies is annoying the fu#k outta me.

You take things too literally too often

I think Hogan will be good, but he will still take time. You can't expect him to hold down a key position consistently from day dot.

I understand this sentiment, but the one year at Casey playing against men will perfectly set Hogan up for 2014.

Round 1, 2014 Hogan will be 195cm and 100kg. I think supporters will be surprised how ready he'll be. Darling just kick 50 goals as a 19 year old in his second season. Hogan will be in his first and need time to find his feet, but it won't take long. He'll be a gun in 2015.

Anyone hearing Blues chasing Frawley?

And I wouldn't be so whats your point

Do you think Brisbane would take the guy running tan laps or the guy getting trashed in Vegas if they were a dead heat on ability

And I wouldn't especially call going to Vegas 'relaxing'

My point is you are not professional sportsman who has manager to deal with the intricacies of contracts and AFL Club Football departments. You can not compare your personal experiences in the labour market with Moloney as they are poles apart.

Brisbane would not begrudge a seasoned AFL player a bit of a break as they will trust that he is staying fit over the break and continuing to maintain fitness on some level.

The fact that you would not or could not enjoy Las Vegas is irrelevant and a value call which has as much weight in a debate as the fact that I like cup of tea in the morning.

And I wouldn't be so whats your point

Do you think Brisbane would take the guy running tan laps or the guy getting trashed in Vegas if they were a dead heat on ability

And I wouldn't especially call going to Vegas 'relaxing'

My point is you are not professional sportsman who has manager to deal with the intricacies of contracts and AFL Club Football departments. You can not compare your personal experiences in the labour market with Moloney as they are poles apart.

Brisbane would not begrudge a seasoned AFL player a bit of a break as they will trust that he is staying fit over the break and continuing to maintain fitness on some level.

The fact that you would not or could not enjoy Las Vegas is irrelevant and a value call which has as much weight in a debate as the fact that I like cup of tea in the morning.

Anyone hearing Blues chasing Frawley?

I do get sick of the Frawley rumours. If we wanted to get rid of him, like Collingwood want to get rid of Dawes, they may hold some weight, but we don't.

And importantly he's contracted for 2013 and also contracted for 2014. If we want him, which we do, he won't be going anywhere.

Add me on ignore already like you said you would, you quoting every post i make with unconstructive replies is annoying the fu#k outta me.

You take things too literally too often

I have you on probation due to the fact that you put forward the 'Involvement in the MD' notion months ago that netted us Viney at 26 and Hogan...

I do get sick of the Frawley rumours. If we wanted to get rid of him, like Collingwood want to get rid of Dawes, they may hold some weight, but we don't.

And importantly he's contracted for 2013 and also contracted for 2014. If we want him, which we do, he won't be going anywhere.

I agree BH. Just keeps poping up though.

It pops up because the Blues need a big backman, so would be sniffing around for one...

This the same club professing to sit out of tradeweek ? Lol

This the same club professing to sit out of tradeweek ? Lol

M'M, a good match, car'ton & mm'.

never believe a word they say.

Rumoured to have sniffed at Frawley and Watts.

Maybe we could trade Sellar for Juddy. I hear he supported the Dees as a kid...

M'M, a good match, car'ton & mm'.

never believe a word they say.

tis exactly what i wrote elsewhere days ago. Dont trust them an iota

I like the possibility of Fitzy, Gawn and Jamar resting forward as the third tall forward. Like Cox and NicNat.

Clark, Hogan and Gawn/Fitzy/Jamar should cover us for tall forwards.

Unfortunately, Gawn/ Fitzy/Jamar will never be as good in any combo - ruck or fwd - as Cox or NicNat (settle Rangey....)

Cox could very well be a high quality permanent fwd, if Worsfold chose to. And NicNat will be, in due course.

That is why one or even 2 of Ped/ Dawes/Gumby is a good idea, at the right price.

Also, if one or both of Clarke/Hogan went down with a LT injury (touch wood no), the above recruits could step in.

Or would you prefer the likes of Rivers, Garland or Silvia to do that again for another year?

PS - please please please lets keep pick 4 live for a gun mid in the draft - Toumpas, O'Rourke, Wines.

Rumoured to have sniffed at Frawley and Watts.

Maybe we could trade Sellar for Juddy. I hear he supported the Dees as a kid...

Maybe we could get Nafan to take Morton for Dawes. Nafan's heart still might beat true! Deep down... Under all that tar and salt.

Big fan of Neeld saying both Dawes and Gumbleton is not out of the picture. I'm pretty sick of Melbourne carrying in a 180cm forward line, and finally a coach is out there doing something about it.

Unfortunately, Gawn/ Fitzy/Jamar will never be as good in any combo - ruck or fwd - as Cox or NicNat (settle Rangey....)

Cox could very well be a high quality permanent fwd, if Worsfold chose to. And NicNat will be, in due course.

That is why one or even 2 of Ped/ Dawes/Gumby is a good idea, at the right price.

Also, if one or both of Clarke/Hogan went down with a LT injury (touch wood no), the above recruits could step in.

Or would you prefer the likes of Rivers, Garland or Silvia to do that again for another year?

PS - please please please lets keep pick 4 live for a gun mid in the draft - Toumpas, O'Rourke, Wines.

they dont have to be as good as cox and nic nat, just play a similair role.

Fitzy played the year as a fwd pinch hitting the ruck very well at casey all year and if his development continues next year he could be every bit as useful as dawes or gumby.

2013 fwd line- byrnes clark fitz

sylvia watts howe

if you rotate fitz with jamar throughout the match i think we could retain solid structure and not have to give up a first rnd pick on a caretaker kpf

In Dawes + pedersen is best bet I believe, pederson CAN go back if needed, forward if needed, and handy around the ground.

2013 fwd line- byrnes clark fitz

sylvia watts howe

I'm reckon Watts will play another season down back (or even permanently if Hogan comes along, especially if we have dawes/gumbleton), and Howe has been talked as pushing into midfield more. Fitz hasn't done anything extraordinary yet, but I'm sure he'll get his chance.

I just hope Clark gets back to full fitness. Imagine if one of Dawes/Gumby had to be our #1 target in 2013

I just hope Clark gets back to full fitness. Imagine if one of Dawes/Gumby had to be our #1 target in 2013

Cook GONE!!

Cook out to prove Dees wrong

tis exactly what i wrote elsewhere days ago. Dont trust them an iota

oh! Déjà Vu...