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Strange, strange post.

Of course I believe in culture. Yesterday's game probably proves the importance of culture more than any other example. What I don't agree with is attaching has-been 90s hash-tags that are no longer applicable to a team (possibly never have been).

Culture is a fluent, malleable entity that is impacted on and influenced by a great degree of elements. I believe it can change reasonably quickly - be that in a positive or negative way.

Thats where your going wrong, because it's not the team alone. The culture your trying to grasp, is only a team values thing that lives a timespan until use by date, 'window'.

That isn't a clubs culture.

What Sydney has just rebuilt over the last 15 Years is a Club culture. Much much deeper & will become ingrained into the supporters & fabric of the place if they can hold onto those values.

Strongly & passionately believed in & adhered to.

People grow into & live by these types of cultures, like a countries cultures or religious cultures.

These are very valued & can become ingrained into peoples psyche.

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Past few seasons, so you don't think the clubs culture can have somer down periods. Of course it can. But when tested, & attacked in the Media in the middle of this year, they all gathered & fought back, with the spirit they're renowned for. Its no Myth.

They turned things around thru that will & climbed up the ladder.

I'm not sure that an ongoing culture survives at any club but I do think that a group of players along with coaches and admin at a point of time can build something special that we currently call culture. In Norths case that was the Pagan era, Hawthorn had it through the 70's with Scott, Matthews and co then it carried through with Tuck, Ayres, Brereton and co then nearly lost the club in the 90's. Geelong with their 3 premierships were know as the handbag club for a long time, they may live to fight again because of the strength of the playing group handing over to the next group along with a very well run club.

Our own club in the late 50's and early 60's is another prime example, with Smith and Barassi our culture was strong.

A good culture is more about a club at a point in time, I don't believe in the mystical ongoing culture of a club otherwise we would be sitting on top of the world and we aren't. It's amazing how good a President, CEO or Coach are when winning and it's also amazing how they become no good and a rabble when losing. All of a sudden the egos get in the way, the politics begin and the ship springs a leak that lets the media feed. As fans we want blood.

I like the way we are trying to build a winning environment; If this is achieved a good part of it will be how the group work together as a team, the players, coaches, board, admin. This is what we will call a good culture.

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I'm not sure that an ongoing culture survives at any club but I do think that a group of players along with coaches and admin at a point of time can build something special that we currently call culture. In Norths case that was the Pagan era, Hawthorn had it through the 70's with Scott, Matthews and co then it carried through with Tuck, Ayres, Brereton and co then nearly lost the club in the 90's. Geelong with their 3 premierships were know as the handbag club for a long time, they may live to fight again because of the strength of the playing group handing over to the next group along with a very well run club.

Our own club in the late 50's and early 60's is another prime example, with Smith and Barassi our culture was strong.

A good culture is more about a club at a point in time, I don't believe in the mystical ongoing culture of a club otherwise we would be sitting on top of the world and we aren't. It's amazing how good a President, CEO or Coach are when winning and it's also amazing how they become no good and a rabble when losing. All of a sudden the egos get in the way, the politics begin and the ship springs a leak that lets the media feed. As fans we want blood.

I like the way we are trying to build a winning environment; If this is achieved a good part of it will be how the group work together as a team, the players, coaches, board, admin. This is what we will call a good culture.

Exactly, culture gets watered down over a period of time and needs renewal constantly or it disappears completely as in our case. The shinboner spirit is something that only the older generation would know of and if you asked a young kid today what it was he most probably wouldn't have a clue.

If you are lucky you will develop a group of players that will, along with the coach and committee, have a general goal and if it happens to coincide with the recruitment of some star players; you then have a common purpose and the players that will generally bring you some success.

If you have a chink in the armour so to speak like a NQR coach or a poor committee, then the whole thing falls apart.

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interestingly

today I heard Buckley mention Sydney and MFC 's emphasis on 'culture' as being similar and positive ,in the same sentence.So someone rates Neeld and sees a future for MFC

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interestingly

today I heard Buckley mention Sydney and MFC 's emphasis on 'culture' as being similar and positive ,in the same sentence.So someone rates Neeld and sees a future for MFC

Not quite, I thought that too then realised he was talking about Storm.

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