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Green, Moloney and possibly Davey all gone come Draft time.

Numerous other players on a decent (if not stratospheric) wage will also be shown the door.

I know Clark is taking up a bit (although pre-injury he was looking like a bargain buy), but surely we will soon be way way under the minimum TPP. And if not, who the hell is getting the coin?

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It depends on who we replace them with, I dare to say we have enough room in our cap next year to lure a very good player with a big front loaded 4 year deal. You are right Davey, Moloney and Green would represent approx 1.2-1.5mil per year

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If Davey pulls the pin and that is a big IF, his salary will still be in the 2013 books.

He isn't about to forfeit that - and nor should he.

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I don't think being under the TPP will affect us, because we will just pay out future contracts like we've been doing for the last few years.

Ah, excuse my ignorance. I had it in my head that once you negotiated contracts, when you paid what amount became inflexible.

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Ah, excuse my ignorance. I had it in my head that once you negotiated contracts, when you paid what amount became inflexible.

nothing stopping both parties re-negotiating terms and conditions

happens all the time

e.g. front or backend loading changes, pay cuts etc

many premiership hopeful sides have agreed to pay cuts to allow room for a prominent draft signing

as long as both parties agree its all kosher

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If Davey pulls the pin and that is a big IF, his salary will still be in the 2013 books.

He isn't about to forfeit that - and nor should he.

Agreed, but being the last year of his contract, it's likely to be minimal, as it was most likely front ended. So I doubt it would free up much cap room, but not giving new contracts likely to be front ended to moloney etc would save some cap space.

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If Davey pulls the pin and that is a big IF, his salary will still be in the 2013 books.

He isn't about to forfeit that - and nor should he.

Explain why he should not forfeit his salary? In any other job if you pull the pin and don't do your job, you don't get paid!.


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How come we don't get informations about salary caps in AFL, it's so different for American Sports.

I don't even know the maximum salary cap in AFL.

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Explain why he should not forfeit his salary? In any other job if you pull the pin and don't do your job, you don't get paid!.

because that would be a condition on him pulling the pin

otherwise he simply wouldn't pull the pin

redleg's idea is better

pay him for next year (as contracted) but give him a non-playing role as in coaching, mentoring or something else

he gets his money and experience in his next phase of employment - win/win

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because that would be a condition on him pulling the pin

otherwise he simply wouldn't pull the pin

redleg's idea is better

pay him for next year (as contracted) but give him a non-playing role as in coaching, mentoring or something else

he gets his money and experience in his next phase of employment - win/win

If his the one doing the 'reconsidering' then he should forfeit his pay. simple as that. If i want to 'reconsider' working my job I am pretty sure they wont pay me my salary for next year.

Keep him on the list, and make him train as hard as the others. If he wants to reconsider it then he will do so at his own loss. Not at the loss of the MFC

Posted (edited)

Doesn't Flash go onto the VL in 2013, I remember when he signed that his contract could have been back loaded due to that fact.

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If his the one doing the 'reconsidering' then he should forfeit his pay. simple as that. If i want to 'reconsider' working my job I am pretty sure they wont pay me my salary for next year.

Keep him on the list, and make him train as hard as the others. If he wants to reconsider it then he will do so at his own loss. Not at the loss of the MFC

I have said this in the other thread - but you are naive and misguided.

He isn't 'pulling up stumps' to try his hand at golf - his foot - that he injured AS AN MFC EMPLOYEE may be in such a state of disrepair that he cannot continue playing AFL footy.

He isn't going to forfeit his pay.

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I have said this in the other thread - but you are naive and misguided.

He isn't 'pulling up stumps' to try his hand at golf - his foot - that he injured AS AN MFC EMPLOYEE may be in such a state of disrepair that he cannot continue playing AFL footy.

He isn't going to forfeit his pay.

My point is that if his the one to reconsider, then he should take the hit

If the MFC were the ones reconsidering then they should take the hit.

If the MFC's doctors think that Davey can keep playing then I see no reason to pay him out based on Davey reconsidering.

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I have said this in the other thread - but you are naive and misguided.

He isn't 'pulling up stumps' to try his hand at golf - his foot - that he injured AS AN MFC EMPLOYEE may be in such a state of disrepair that he cannot continue playing AFL footy.

He isn't going to forfeit his pay.

Must admit it never crossed my mind that he would still get paid out the last year of his contract if he retired, but I guess it makes sense if it is due to injury he has copped as an employee of the club.

Out of interest, if say someone like Mathew Scarlett has pulled the pin because he is simply over it and not up to doing a pre-season etc, and he still had a year to run on his deal, surely he gets nothing.

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Comes down to what the MFCs doctors think imho

I would get rid of the 'h'...

And if Davey is 'reconsidering' I would wager it is at the club's urging.

We 'retired' Green and we may have to 'retire' Aaron too.

And we will make sure he gets what he deserves.

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Doesn't Flash go onto the VL in 2013, I remember when he signed that his contract could have been back loaded due to that fact.

Only $100k pa of Vet's salaries now get taken out of the equation, however the difference being you are no longer limited to nominating 2 Vets

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