Herald Sun reports Gysberts to be shown the door...Neeld has gone mad!!!

[Biffen 12,949]

The Swan's Morton played a top game today.

Just to really rub it all in .

[jumbo returns 6,741]

We picked the wrong one..........again.

Edited September 8, 2012 by jumbo returns

[tonatopia 278]

The Swan's Morton played a top game today.

They will probably end up with Morton, Gysberts, bennell and moloney.

Most likely turn them into gun footballers.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Mitch Clarke yes, but is it Nature or Nurture.

Is it Mitch himself or did he learn the Leigh Matthews/Brisbane Lions attitudes, or is it a combination of the Matthews attitudes + recruiting a young Clarke who has a Zeal for the 'Contest', in the first place.

If it started with Clarkes 'Nature' before drafting,,,, how much is it then, the Environment of nurturing this combative personality thru a healthy Club Environment, which Encourages it's boys to play 'Rough', without fear of silent condemnation from within some sectors of the support base???

Is there anyone out there who can translate this?

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

They may - its easier to look good in a top side though.

[Ned 156]

We all know the list needs to be turned over. But I would feel a lot more confident about the process if I had evidence Neeld could coach. Watching Frenantle now and it makes me sick that amateur Lyon was put in charge of our coaching hunt. We could've had Ross Lyon if we had someone with the nous to pick up the phone and ask Ross - Roos spelt it out on national TV. Lyon fancies himself as a journalist yet failed at the absolute basics.

Let's hope Neeld can achieve what needs to be done.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Is there anyone out there who can translate this?

Don't you understand 'Nature & Nurture' & the learned behaviors, over inbred instincts?

Sorry, I'm not being smart. I'm surprised people didn't recognise this, & understand straight off the bat.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Don't you understand 'Nature & Nurture' & the learned behaviors, over inbred instincts?

Sorry, I'm not being smart. I'm surprised people didn't recognise this, & understand straight off the bat.

Oh, is that what you were talking about...... Nature & Nurture?

Always liked their music. Love boy bands.

Toff.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Mitch Clarke yes, but is it Nature or Nurture.

Is it Mitch himself or did he learn the Leigh Matthews/Brisbane Lions attitudes, or is it a combination of the Matthews attitudes + recruiting a young Clarke who has a Zeal for the 'Contest', in the first place.

If it started with Clarkes 'Nature' before drafting,,,, how much is it then, the Environment of nurturing this combative personality thru a healthy Club Environment, which Encourages it's boys to play 'Rough', without fear of silent condemnation from within some sectors of the support base???

I know exactly what you're talking about - those they say they don't understand this concept are so disappointed by our players, they refuse to acknowledge the sad truth.

There are only four players on our list that have a combative spirit.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Oh, is that what you were talking about...... Nature & Nurture?

Always liked their music. Love boy bands.

Toff.

What are you onabout you dimwit?

[Moonshadow 17,678]

I know exactly what you're talking about - those they say they don't understand this concept are so disappointed by our players, they refuse to acknowledge the sad truth.

Oh, good lord. You two should get a room.

Now I've heard it all! You can analyse the psychology of our list from the depths of your darkened study? Oh please.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I know exactly what you're talking about - those they say they don't understand this concept are so disappointed by our players, they refuse to acknowledge the sad truth.

There are only four players on our list that have a combative spirit.

Hah, someone with some honesty.

And that lacking combativeness is the very thing we need reach into the cavity & rip right out, asap.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Oh, good lord. You two should get a room.

Now I've heard it all! You can analyse the psychology of our list from the depths of your darkened study? Oh please.

I understand, you don't get it - that's okay.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Oh, good lord. You two should get a room.

Now I've heard it all! You can analyse the psychology of our list from the depths of your darkened study? Oh please.

Moonshadow, anytime you can PM me & I will meet you, anytime you like To discuss your Fem fatale ways.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Moonshadow, anytime you can PM me & I will meet you, anytime you like To discuss your Fem fatale ways.

Do I get to lie down on some couch while I suck my thumb? I'm too scared you'll get on that '1965 is the root of all our problems' line again and bore the hell out of me. Thanks anyway Sigmund.

Onward and upward, hey?

Cheers and chin-chin, old chap.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Do I get to lie down on some couch while I suck my thumb? I'm too scared you'll get on that '1965 is the root of all our problems' line again and bore the hell out of me. Thanks anyway Sigmund.

Onward and upward, hey?

Cheers and chin-chin, old chap.

Stiill suckin on your thumb boyo.. I'll give you a hint,, most here aren't here for you, & aren't interested in entertaining you.

I would say people are here to talk footy 7 they're thought s on the topic, but you carry on suckin, & thinking people are here just for you.

[Pennant St Dee 13,327]

No. Watch the final series closely. Get better and stronger or die.

Is it true WYL when you lost your virginity you still remained negative.

Your fookin kidding yourself, you talk about none of our players being up to September bar Jones and Clark.

Frawley would walk into Hawthorns backline and Collingwoods, Jamar would play in both those sides as well,

Grimes, Blease, Trengove (our captain you write off at any given chance) will all be players and the little I have seen of Viney shows he also has the hunger. These 4 would all perform roles in all of the finals teams when surrounded by class players.

Put the noose and the sharp objects away FFS

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Stiill suckin on your thumb boyo.. I'll give you a hint,, most here aren't here for you, & aren't interested in entertaining you.

I would say people are here to talk footy 7 they're thought s on the topic, but you carry on suckin, & thinking people are here just for you.

Then talk footy pal.

[Biffen 12,949]

There seems to be an unusual psychologial depth to this thread. Hmmmm...

Hope everyone is OK

[Moonshadow 17,678]

Gysberts isn't perfect, but he clearly has talent.

I am more than happy to get rid of players who have been in the system for ages and failed, but Gysberts has plenty of time on his side and with glimpses of usable talent, it would be a lazy and soft option to get rid of him.

Neeld has to back himself to make something of these sorts of kids, otherwise what sort of coach is he?

Back to footy....

This is very true Jaded. But Gys has to want to buy in (I'm disliking that term already). If he refuses to get with the coaching plan and game plan requirements, Neeld may be wise to seek value from Gys in a trade while he still can.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Then talk footy pal.

When you start to talk Shyte at people, be prepared to back it up. or STFU.

[monoccular 17,607]

I'm sure they said that both players had been DELISTED by the club during the week.

......they being whom? The H-S?

[Moonshadow 17,678]

When you start to talk Shyte at people, be prepared to back it up. or STFU.

Move on, angry man. I have. Talk footy.

[Biffen 12,949]

They will probably end up with Morton, Gysberts, bennell and moloney.

Most likely turn them into gun footballers.

The success at the Swans is more to do with the 24 hour footy news cycle that Sydney DOES NOT have.

They take the 100 gamers and let them concentrate on Footy and then switch off after training and live their lives.

If they have ten beers in a pub on a Sunday after a recovery session then nobody knows and nobody gives a flying f%ck.

[GRUN DEE 69]

Make this an easy exchange.

Jordan Gysberts (ex-Pick 12) & Lucas Cook (ex-Pick12) to Geelong for Josh Walker (ex-Rookie Pick) & 2nd Round Pick.