Travis Boak

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

Just found this article:

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/port-adelaide-star-travis-boak-all-but-certain-to-move-to-geelong/story-e6freck3-1226420307085

Confirms much of what I was saying and heard from a certain palyer manager this morning.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Viney to Boak to Clark. I like the sound of that.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Get him!

Proven goal kicking midfielder who would thrive from the hard work of Magner and McKenzie.

Did I mention he was proven? Whilst the kids this year in the draft may look good, remind me how our history of using high draft picks has turned out again..

We need mature age, plug and play. Boak is that. If we can get it done with our mid first round and a player, do it. If not pick 4 wouldn't bother me.

It's wasn't the picks sloonie, it's was our football style direction back then, that directed us to take those types of outside runners.

We've changed coaches & gamestyle, remarkably to a very sound contested footy style.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Outside runners/ inside mids- whatever we drafted, for whatever reason, none of them have really worked out, have they?

Let's not make this a thread on past draft woes, keep it Boak centric. We should chase him, and I elieve we are in the box seat with our picks.

[Jesse Christ 2,884]

Carlton should be targetting Cloak and I think he should be their main target. I think we are in the box seat for Boak and we don't necessarilly have to please him- we have to please Port- which we can do.

Beggars can't be choosers- he wants to return to Vic- we will provide that whilst compensating his former club nicely. Done deal

[Viney12 196]

Get him!

Proven goal kicking midfielder who would thrive from the hard work of Magner and McKenzie.

Did I mention he was proven? Whilst the kids this year in the draft may look good, remind me how our history of using high draft picks has turned out again..

We need mature age, plug and play. Boak is that. If we can get it done with our mid first round and a player, do it. If not pick 4 wouldn't bother me.

Not disagreeing with the thought of getting Boak, but this is a bit of a myth

His season tallies of goals:

2007 4

2008 9

2009 7

2010 13

2011 12

2012 5 so far

thats hardly what I would call a goal kicking mid

[Dr. Gonzo 24,193]

Just found this article:

http://www.adelaiden...3-1226420307085

Confirms much of what I was saying and heard from a certain palyer manager this morning.

Love it how Rucci makes the jump from "leaving Port" to "heading to Geelong" with no thought of the in-between need for an actual trade. If he forced their hand and went to the draft I would take him with pick 13 which will be before Geelong's first pick assuming they don't trade for an earlier one - call his bluff this time doubt he will sit out for a year like Ball threatened to.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,193]

Can we merge the Boak threads? No need for two separate ones discussing the same thing.

[jnrmac 20,055]

Highlights from his 100 games. Can play.

[jumbo returns 6,740]

Now where have I heard that before?

He's gone. Hopefully we make a decent play for him. Pick 13 and Tapscott would be a fair-ish deal.

Tapscott? I don't think so - very much a required player.

[Disco Demons 92]

another classic trade...player nominates a club he has no chance of getting to. Leaves other clubs to pay well over the top for him.

[dee-luded 2,959]

Outside runners/ inside mids- whatever we drafted, for whatever reason, none of them have really worked out, have they?

Let's not make this a thread on past draft woes, keep it Boak centric. We should chase him, and I elieve we are in the box seat with our picks.

I'm not into Paying Overs with our future development... MidPick or nothing.

We need a lot more than just Boak.

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Not yet, But Jones as you can see is just hitting his straps. It takes time for some. Frawley took about 3.

Our problem has been being in the draft on the wrong years,,, &/or we've taken the skilled but immature physically.

Watts is just starting to show, something, & should have been in the magoos until this year.

We've IMO, made a couple of Blunders with a P4 from the previous recruiters who shall remain nameless but ended up @ the Tigs.

And Benny, but the Jet will be 'OK', IMO.

Edited July 9, 2012 by dee-luded

[Mono 455]

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4) If he says he's leaving before being out of contract.... then Port will trade him where they see fit...he will have no say in it. (Correct me if I am wrong)

5) If he shuts up until he is out of contract he can go where he wants in the draft(Correct me if I am wrong also)

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Makes no difference. To get to his club of choice, he needs to be traded; whether he speaks up now or later is immaterial.

To go into the ND or PSD, he can only stipulate his financial requirements, not location of the club - so he risks going to GWS or GC. If MFC stays 3rd last or lower, they are a reasonable chance of getting Boak through the draft, as GC is downsizing and trying to keep its young guns.

Having said that, as mentioned earlier, Port is unlikely to do a "Nick Stevens" again, so will be looking to get what they can for him (and you'd think Boak would want Port to get decent compensation).

Comes down to where he wants to go. MFC has the best draft picks/compensation on offer; they must now convince him to come to the club. They convinced Clark, so you never know. We certainly have more coin to offer; seeing Geelong slide down the ladder would you'd think help our cause as well.

Ed. Of course, if Geelong slide low enough, their first pick gets a whole lot better.

Edited July 9, 2012 by Mono

[Guest José Mourinho]

I see a lot of Dane Swan in Trav Boak.

He'll be a star, don't worry about that.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Tapscott? I don't think so - very much a required player.

Of course he is but do you think Port will be interested in one of our NQR's? Not a chance. They will ask for pick 4 straight off the bat.

Port will expect us to give up something of value to get their second best player.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,193]

Not disagreeing with the thought of getting Boak, but this is a bit of a myth

His season tallies of goals:

2007 4

2008 9

2009 7

2010 13

2011 12

2012 5 so far

thats hardly what I would call a goal kicking mid

To put it into perspective though Moloney's never kicked 10 or more in a season for us and Boak is about on par with Jones for how many he has kicked. I can't think of any other midfielders on our list who can kick regular goals (Trengove last year but not this year).

[Guest José Mourinho]

Tapscott? I don't think so - very much a required player.

Bah! Not when Trav Boak is available.

Tapscott will never be able to exert a comparable influence on a match.

[Viney12 196]

To put it into perspective though Moloney's never kicked 10 or more in a season for us and Boak is about on par with Jones for how many he has kicked. I can't think of any other midfielders on our list who can kick regular goals (Trengove last year but not this year).

And I wouldn't call those guys Goal Kicking Mids either

My point that for a goal kicking mid, he hasn't kicked many goals thus far

[old55 23,407]

I understand that Boak ...

There's a 9 page Boak thread near the top of the first page but we need a new one?

[Jaded No More 68,867]

I'd be happy to give Port pick 4, if we are confident of getting Jack Viney at pick 12.

It leaves us with pick 3 to get another really good quality midfielder, and in one draft we could probably resolve our biggest issue, with 2 ready made players and one you would assume would grow into a very good player.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,193]

And I wouldn't call those guys Goal Kicking Mids either

My point that for a goal kicking mid, he hasn't kicked many goals thus far

Yeah that's fair - I would still prefer Caddy he seems to have a bigger build and seems more of a goalkicker but if Boak is available for our mid first round comp pick after having ruled out Caddy then I wouldn't be unhappy to get him. Wouldn't really want to pay pick 4 though (unless we can get Viney in 2nd round) and would want to rule out Caddy first. No reason we can't make a play for both though and see what happens.

[H_T 3,043]

I'd be happy to give Port pick 4, if we are confident of getting Jack Viney at pick 12.

It leaves us with pick 3 to get another really good quality midfielder, and in one draft we could probably resolve our biggest issue, with 2 ready made players and one you would assume would grow into a very good player.

Pick *12 is the 2nd of our compo picks, Jaded. We can only pick up Viney with our first round pick (pick *3) or second round pick (~pick whatever no. that is..)

*Assuming we finish 16th....

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[Mono 455]

Pick 12 is the 2nd of our compo picks, Jaded. We can only pick up Viney with our first round pick (pick 3) or second round pick (~pick whatever no. that is..)

....because we are getting him as a father/son pick.

[Jaded No More 68,867]

Pick *12 is the 2nd of our compo picks, Jaded. We can only pick up Viney with our first round pick (pick *3) or second round pick (~pick whatever no. that is..)

*Assuming we finish 16th....

Damn, I keep forgetting we can't use compo picks to bid for F/S.

Well the scenario still applies, if we think we can get Viney for our second round pick, then I'd be very happy to give up pick 4 for Boak. He's a known quantity, draft picks aren't.

[Viney12 196]

Yeah that's fair - I would still prefer Caddy he seems to have a bigger build and seems more of a goalkicker but if Boak is available for our mid first round comp pick after having ruled out Caddy then I wouldn't be unhappy to get him. Wouldn't really want to pay pick 4 though (unless we can get Viney in 2nd round) and would want to rule out Caddy first. No reason we can't make a play for both though and see what happens.

I wouldn't be unhappy getting Boak either.....at the right price

Not worth Pick 4 IMO