I must admit, I have been very impressed by the presentations of Matthew Lloyd as a commentator and analyst.

He was a hard, uncompromising footballer who is in touch with the 'zeitgeist' of the AFL.

What about trying to poach him as a mentor for the players? I know he has a blossoming media career, but I'm sure everyone has a price.

Can he do any worse than Brian Royal?

Edited May 13, 201213 yr by jumbo returns

Surely you jest? Myself I think he's always captain obvious, pointing out in games what everyone already knows.

Surely you jest? Myself I think he's always captain obvious, pointing out in games what everyone already knows.

The velvet sledgehammer...Is good at telling players what to do and where to stand ect.....He will tell you that he has never made a mistake or played a bad game in his life......Same as David King......Much better players since they retired.....

Surely you jest? Myself I think he's always captain obvious, pointing out in games what everyone already knows.

Well, if you think about it, he's just out of playing, knows the ever changing culture of the players and he really knows his stuff.

I think it would be a good move.

Why not? If we have the money I guess. But we already have a pretty large coaching panel but I think the cattle are the issue.

Why not? If we have the money I guess. But we already have a pretty large coaching panel but I think the cattle are the issue.

They could find the coin by restructuring......I think Neeld will pick his own crew season's end anyway.

He was a hard, uncompromising footballer who is in touch with the 'zeitgeist' of the AFL.

Seriously? Lloyd hard and uncompromising? The closest to hard is the time he came off the square to snipe Brad Sewell, the rest of the time he spent sprawled on the ground trying to milk free kicks.

Lloyd was great at kicking a football through the sticks, but hard is not a word I have ever heard used as an adjective in describe him.

Lloyd thinks more of the mud on the bottom of his shoe than he does of us.

He would probably laugh at our offer and go and wipe his butt with the contract.

Lloyd thinks more of the mud on the bottom of his shoe than he does of us.

He would probably laugh at our offer and go and wipe his butt with the contract.

Therein lies the problem with the Club since we've stopped being competitive.

Even when we were going well in the early 2000-2005 years on and off, no one ever took us seriously or showed us a decent amount of respect in my opinion. It used to annoy me because we earned respect in those days whereas now we havent.

Even when we were going well in the early 2000-2005 years on and off, no one ever took us seriously or showed us a decent amount of respect in my opinion. It used to annoy me because we earned respect in those days whereas now we havent.

Flags earn respect .

Not getting flogged in GF's.

Surely you jest? Myself I think he's always captain obvious, pointing out in games what everyone already knows.

Yeah, but if you're not sharp enough to pick up these things on your own, you'd think he was a genius!

Flags earn respect .

Not getting flogged in GF's.

Too true...

One of the least insightful commentators on television or radio.

They could find the coin by restructuring......I think Neeld will pick his own crew season's end anyway.

Did Neeld not hand pick most of his assistants this year?

I liked Rawlings but was surprised with Leigh Brown. Neil Craig was a highly impressive character early in his coaching career.

Matthew Lloyd? Next you will suggest Tactics King, or Nathan Brown, or Billy Brownless.

Thanks! Great post. Best laugh I've had in years.

Get Billy onboard - he can start the 'get your D's out for the Dees' chant again (Yep, in 2005 two girls in a van flashed their boobs after a Demons win at the G and boy did it cap off a good night).

Did Neeld not hand pick most of his assistants this year?

Didn't Brian Royal have one year left on his contract?

Thanks! Great post. Best laugh I've had in years.

Talk footy - don't belittle.

Cite your reasons why.

I must admit, I have been very impressed by the presentations of Matthew Lloyd as a commentator and analyst.

He was a hard, uncompromising footballer who is in touch with the 'zeitgeist' of the AFL.

What about trying to poach him as a mentor for the players? I know he has a blossoming media career, but I'm sure everyone has a price.

Can he do any worse than Brian Royal?

I must admit, I have been very impressed by the presentations of Matthew Lloyd as a commentator and analyst.

He was a hard, uncompromising footballer who is in touch with the 'zeitgeist' of the AFL.

What about trying to poach him as a mentor for the players? I know he has a blossoming media career, but I'm sure everyone has a price.

Can he do any worse than Brian Royal?

There are enough experience coaches from successful backgrounds at the club currently! At what stage do we question that we may have the wrong players at the club. Neeld apoke about talent vs desire & commitment reffering to a silvia question, players must have both & talent alone will not make it for you.

Flags earn respect .

Not getting flogged in GF's.

Couldn't agree more!

The last 2 GFs we've been in we shouldn't have - that's why we got pantsed in both.

Under Bailey we were heading that way again.

This is real distruptive stuff going on right now for the club.

If we don't "do something" in the immortal words of the sage in the raincoat from Hawthorn, it will be more of "we were good 2000-5".

Did we win a flag in those years ?

No we didn't!

Another round of that would be much easier to do than what's going on now.

But, it would be just another nail in the coffin.

As for changing coaches to another untried and in the case of this thread's subject Matthew Lloyd would add even more to our demise.

Mark Neeld, and those around him are professional coaches.

This is not kick to kick - this is football.

This is a gutsy group of people prepared to back themselves to change the culture.

They know what they are doing.

They know what they want.

It's not just do win enough games to make us think "next year"...

It's not just to get to play a final and go down in a screaming heap without winning the ultimate prize!

This is an exciting ride.

Not since the glory days of the 50s have we had a chance to live dangerously.

Who knows, we might even win a flag!!!

Stop this rubbish about changing coaches and see the big picture.

Go Dees

I liked Rawlings but was surprised with Leigh Brown. Neil Craig was a highly impressive character early in his coaching career.

Not I.

Got a great output from himself in spite of a low level of talent and athleticism relative to other AFL players.

The time in 2011 when I saw Collingwood play us and Brown from nowhere threw his body into Frawley at a contest, hurting Frawley in the process.

It was a clear example of how he was willing to put his body on the line and do what it took to win.

He also has an understanding of WHAT it takes to win.

Yes! I like his football brain.