I'd be fuming if we're playing injured players when we're getting hammererered every week.

I agree he is slow, but he is doing all the 1% right, even being noticed by one of the normally hard at us commentators, maybe brerton mentioning 1% not just tackling. Pointing out he is tackling hard, he had 10 tackles against maybe the saints and is 2nd for us behind Jordie in tackling, this is a big part of the game now and would be missed.

I acknowledge that other parts of his game seem to be lacking atm

Knowing the he is def. injured but not knowing def. what it is I'd

be fairly sure it would be OP in the fact of his running and lack of kicking strength .

I acknowledge that other parts of his game seem to be lacking atm

I love Trengove as a player, which is why I'm disappointed by his output. He's averaging less disposals, marks and goals than when he was an 18 year old in his first year. But more importantly, he's not hunting the footy. He reacts, he doesn't initiate. In his first two years he hunted the footy. We're playing one-on-one footy around the stoppages under Neeld, which I like, but I'd like to see Trengove allowed to use his instincts.

Knowing the he is def. injured but not knowing def. what it is I'd

be fairly sure it would be OP in the fact of his running and lack of kicking strength .

This post makes your suggestion that you are 'in the know' much less convincing.

Look up some older footage of Trengove and compare it to the last few games. He HAS to have an injury. He was super fast and reknowned for it. Now he cant keep up with Brock - there is no other answer.

It's official. Trengove is slooow! No line breaker thats for sure. I hope it's an injury that he can recover from in due course. But the signs are not good particularly when you are burnt off by McLean.

Blease on the other hand was impressive and will gain confidence from his performance. He did similar things towards the end of last season. He will be encouraged to take the game on.

One thing for sure, we didn't miss Sylvia or Davey. At least our team had a go this week and we were probably spared seeing Sylvia kissing and hugging McLean at the end of the game.

Blease, Gysberts with a few preseasons and the addition of Viney gives me hope.

We were BETTER without Davey and Sylvia. hard decisions loom.

I miss these days:

That clip is almost conclusive proof that he is carrying an injury this year.

Attended several training sessions over april can tell you that carrying injury imo as was put thru several tests before being able to join main group on occasions and rarely did whole session. Tests involved short bursts of running and had no explosion. Also gathering ball off deck turning sharply and stab passing either foot again couldnt balance and hit target very unlike trengove. And as previous poster said think luke ball and judd like in terms of playing nowhere near optimum levels but no further damage could happen. I say just rest him fully and modify training for him like pies did for ball. Was same for frawley over april hardly trained with main group.

Should be faster, must be injured. From pre-draft test...

But he made up for lost time over the weekend, finishing in the top two per cent nationally in both the 20m sprint and beep tests.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/85989/default.aspx

We were BETTER without Davey and Sylvia. hard decisions loom.

Or perhaps not so hard.

It's not just Trengove though - can't remember who, but Watts got burnt off by someone he shouldn't too, and it wasn't from lack of desire. He was trying to get there.

I think it's got a lot to do with the players getting smashed in training during the week still.

The load on their legs means by the 3rd quarter they are dead out there.

Didn't Neil Craig experiment with smashing his players at training during the season, then easing off sonthey were fresh for finals?

I've got a feeling we'll be very fresh for our much easier run in the second half of the season.

No there is a bit of urban myth about this. Ys he was responsible for punishing the Crows team of Malcolm Blight in June and tapering the training off for September. They won back to back flags. Daniher famously tried this and it backfired badly.

Craig is an astute fitness specialist. He may have overseen our guys get smashed at training pre-season but he he is smart enough not to do it during the season. The fact is though we are so far behind everyone else we have to catch up sometime.

He's been like this all year. Reeks of OP to me. He has no power in his running, can't accelerate, and can't kick. Hallmarks of OP.

If he can't run, he shouldn't be playing. He's not influencing games at all. Can't actually think of any game where he's been at his best.

Agree.

This post makes your suggestion that you are 'in the know' much less convincing.

Well my source was a players girlfriend who told me he was injured since the start of the season and I didn't quiz her any further

I've watched him at training where he's had his right calf heavily strapped from ankle to knee..but then I saw him on crutches after our Darwin game last year " I'll be right" & he played the next week

Just read the article about what Wayne Carey said about Jack Trengove and his captain situation and I actually think that Wayne is right on the ball with this.

His comments seem concerned although positive and hopefully the clubs senior players take note of Careys comments.

link?!

http://www.heraldsun...FL - Melbourne)

You may need to copy paste the story heading

"Young skipper Jack Trengove needs help"

into google and use that link to see the full version

Not a Carey fan but he has been talking sense lately. Jack is trying to hard as are a few of the other, makes you look very poor at times. Thats where the just go out and enjoy yourself can be so helpful.

I actually found it to be a refreshing article

Carey's analysis is plausible and, if you had only seen Trengove play one game this year, perhaps the most likely explanation for Trengove's poor form.

However, the burden of increased pressure doesn't explain Trengove's diminished running ability, and that has been evident for weeks. I think the primary issue is he's carrying an injury.

Carey's analysis is feasible and, if you had only seen Trengove play one game this year, perhaps the most likely explanation for Trengove's poor form.

However, the burden of increased pressure doesn't explain Trengove's diminished running ability, and that has been evident for weeks. I think the primary issue is he's carrying an injury.

His legs are probably turning to jelly from all the running in the new regime that his young body isn't used to.

His legs are probably turning to jelly from all the running in the new regime that his young body isn't used to.

Interesting to note his sister (Jessica) has been selected to run in the marathon at the London Olympics. Jack is playing like he ran a marathon the day before.

The injury is by far the issue, and as far as help, that's why Grimes is sharing the captaincy.