In the past he has been a reliable solid player but not a game changer, i think that will change this year, and it will catch some teams off guard.

I remember reading before he was drafted that he lead his side in the TAC cup as the most dominant player on the field.

Itching to see some of that in the AFL because he definitely has the confidence and will be much more used to the tempo and speed by now.

the Hawks midfield has some solid performers and I guess trenners game will be affected by the support of our core?

the Hawks midfield has some solid performers and I guess trenners game will be affected by the support of our core?

I agree, though i think Neeld has some good midfield smarts about him (based on his past) and may have some good contingencies up his sleeve.

Good variety of players at his disposal also.

probably need to refer to the squad as in the other thread, but hoping Trenners can lead the team to victory

Good little interview by Ellie McKenzie on the MFC website at the moment with our very own, Jack TrengRove.

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/tabid/8667/contentid/430123/default.aspx

Oh dear...

Is JT carrying an injury? Osteitis pubis, perhaps? There's no run, no lift when he tries to jump off the ground and no power in his kicking. Looks a lot like Luke Ball when he had OP - all guts, but unable to deliver the quality we are used to.

Is JT carrying an injury? Osteitis pubis, perhaps? There's no run, no lift when he tries to jump off the ground and no power in his kicking. Looks a lot like Luke Ball when he had OP - all guts, but unable to deliver the quality we are used to.

He does look slow out there, has no burst at all. Was never a speed merchant but I don't recall him being a slug either.

Is JT carrying an injury? Osteitis pubis, perhaps? There's no run, no lift when he tries to jump off the ground and no power in his kicking. Looks a lot like Luke Ball when he had OP - all guts, but unable to deliver the quality we are used to.

seems well off imo, no idea why

Is JT carrying an injury? Osteitis pubis, perhaps? There's no run, no lift when he tries to jump off the ground and no power in his kicking. Looks a lot like Luke Ball when he had OP - all guts, but unable to deliver the quality we are used to.

There's no lift when he jumps because our coach put the weight of expectation on his shoulders by making him a co-captain.

There's no lift when he jumps because our coach put the weight of expectation on his shoulders by making him a co-captain.

This is where the "Like This" button is unhelpful. I need an "I agree, but I don't have to Like It" button because your point is well made. To say I "Like This" may give the wrong impression.

How does giving someone the captaincy decrease their leg speed? Interesting logic but I'm sure one of you will find a way to explain it ...

How does giving someone the captaincy decrease their leg speed? Interesting logic but I'm sure one of you will find a way to explain it ...

When you are under pressure to perform RR, and if you are putting extra pressure on yourself, which I have no doubt Jack will be doing, you lose confidence if things aren't going how you want them. It can get to a stage where you have convinced yourself that you are operating at 100%, but might only be operating around 80-90%.

Let's not forget, the kid is in his third AFL season, he was crucified by the umpires last year and that had some impact on his game. He is now seen as a leader at the club, when let's face it, while he has got leadership qualities he out of anyone has to work the hardest to lead successfully so early in to his career. As he is considered one of our better players, he is no doubt being tagged (I don't see what happens off the ball - someone could keep an eye on that and let me know how much other teams are working him over).

Personally, I'd like to see Jack starting in the centre square more often, and basically be given a licence to do what is natural for him. I have no doubt he can be a game breaker, but at the moment, he is looking far from a number 2 draft pick. But, Neeld is so determined on teaching this team the basics of defending, which he claimed they have never been taught, I can't see any of our players being given the opportunity to play with the creativity that has happened in the past. I hope he knows what he is doing.

How does giving someone the captaincy decrease their leg speed? Interesting logic but I'm sure one of you will find a way to explain it ...

I'd hate to think what's going on in his head at the moment. What a time to have the burden of being Captain thrust on your shoulders. He knows that as Captain it is up to him to provide the leadership that is so desperately missing especially as the team is performing so badly at the moment. But like everyone else he is still learning how to be a player and the new gameplan etc. The pressure he must be feeling must be massive. I still think it was too early to give him this burden. A lot of experienced players have had bad seasons when first appointed as Captain and that can be in teams performing well. This one is in a deplorable state at the moment and there is a distinct lack of onfield leadership from anyone to lift the team when it starts to fall behind. Not that that alone would be enough at the moment but it would help. I thought Beamer's return gave us a lift in the middle when it mattered. But too little too late.

Trenners is S.T ...ruggling.

Is it temporary or are we looking at a possible McLean permanent pace type problem here? What's going on with him??

I saw him at a cafe a few hours before the Doggies game and he had a compression bandage over his calf .. not sure if that has anything to do with it

I started a thread last year talking about his lack of pace, tonight he was run down by Goddard. He needs to work on his first five steps urgently otherwise he will go backwards. Yes, not all great players are quick but it is seriously hampering his ability to impact games.

Edited April 28, 201213 yr by Clint Bizkit

He needs to work on his first five steps urgently otherwise he will go backwards.

this is a good call .. seems flat-footed and then gets caught or disposes of it poorly under pressure

Its the only reason i can think his form is so bad...got burned off by Brock Mclean at one stage.

Groin by the looks of it, or maybe OP.

He has no power.

Maybe adductor surgery booked for the offseason?

Looks like he has OP. He cannot push off and accelerate and he has no penetration in his kicking. Some of his set shots this year have been embarrassing. He's my favorite player, but he is definitely playing injured. If he weren't captain and we weren't on the ass end of the ladder, he'd be resting or running round in the VFL.

He should be rested. It is genuinely sad to watch

I made this comment after attending the swans match lat week. He has definitely lost a few yards from last year. Is it because he has bulked up? I don't know, but if he is injured I don't understand why we are risking playing him! Still, he had a far better match today than the past few weeks.

If he is injured they have to get him off the park, it isn't doing his confidence any good at all. Grimes can lead alone for a while, I think he is doing well so far.

Yeah, he had a decent second half, but you're right. No acceleration whatsoever.

Is it because he has bulked up? I don't know, but if he is injured I don't understand why we are risking playing him!

I think he is only two or three kilos heavier so shouldn't be that.