Proof and opinion can be pretty much the same thing..

pretty much says it all

who ??? what ??? Its ok darl....just some static on the dial.. nothing worth caring about !!!

Meanwhile dateline Namango, a three headed toad was discovered today, lucky for some if not the toad !!

pretty much says it all

yes it does....

who ??? what ??? Its ok darl....just some static on the dial.. nothing worth caring about !!!

Meanwhile dateline Namango, a three headed toad was discovered today, lucky for some if not the toad !!

now THAT's interesting....

This is a discussion board not a court of law, so proof and opinion can be pretty much the same thing..

Proof: "Evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement."

Opinion: "A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge."

[source: Google]

So we have proof, which is based on evidence or logical deduction to establish truth, versus opinion, which could be a view based upon the position of the leaves that were arranged by the magical tea fairy.

It's fair to say that opinion and proof are not the same. You show a lot of the former and precious little of the latter.

I am so looking forward to seeing how Scully goes this year.

Wonder how he'll break the heavy tags he'll get?

Will he live up to his hype?

It's going to be interesting.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck its proof enough for me its a duck. I don't need the duck to tell me so or listen to someone else who disputes it may not be a duck because the duck hasn't told them. I trust my own instinct, perception, foresight and intuition when the subject comes to discussing ducks or liars.

Edited January 12, 201213 yr by Jackie

Let it go man. He doesn't love you any more.

Stop torturing yourself, man!

Live in the now!

Big deal. Kane Cornes has run 9.21. The World Record is 7.20.7. Tom Rischbieth ran 9.30 at the 2005 Draft Camp. Just another puff piece.

I think Brock McLean won Carlton's time trial a couple of years ago too!

Ha ha - LOL

A run in the park ain't a twisting turning tackling AFL match, but it my look good on the prjck's cv!

Be keen to hear the best times for our 3 km trial on Friday...

Scully's time is exceptional for an AFL footballer but we know that his aerobic fitness has always been first class. I suspect that the time of 9m 37s would easily put him in the top 5% for AFL footballers and I would be surprised if we get even one player bettering that time on Friday (noting that all courses and the conditions will deiffer thereby having an inluence on times).

More interesting was the fact that the Giants sports science manager John Quinn does acknowledge that Scully has been in rehab - something of which I think we all suspected but to my knowledge hasn't been confirmed previously by the Giants.

It really doesn't add much to the extent of the injury or how it will affect his preparation or his future and I'm sure we'll learn more when the practice and NAB Cup matches start.

Scully's time is exceptional for an AFL footballer but we know that his aerobic fitness has always been first class. I suspect that the time of 9m 37s would easily put him in the top 5% for AFL footballers and I would be surprised if we get even one player bettering that time on Friday (noting that all courses and the conditions will deiffer thereby having an inluence on times).

More interesting was the fact that the Giants sports science manager John Quinn does acknowledge that Scully has been in rehab - something of which I think we all suspected but to my knowledge hasn't been confirmed previously by the Giants.

It really doesn't add much to the extent of the injury or how it will affect his preparation and I'm sure we'll learn more when the practice and NAB Cup matches start.

It is a question of whether we choose to believe Mr Quinn or not. There has been too many lies disseminated over the Scully issue already. To maintain the big lie it is still to their best interest to continue lying.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck its proof enough for me its a duck. I don't need the duck to tell me so or listen to someone else who disputes it may not be a duck because the duck hasn't told them. I trust my own instinct, perception, foresight and intuition when the subject comes to discussing ducks or liars.

Edited by Demonland - unnecessary language

I think there is enough irregularities out in the open to indeed form the strongest of views that Tom has been less than honest. The way it went down in the last days is laughable at best and I dont think many are now trying to defend the view that he signed up the day he announced. As to when it when it went down lots of varying opinions.

In your opinion Spongebob...and you take far too much acid....That is a fact!!!

Chill the F out Mr Serious.

I am too serious ..... AND I take too much acid?!?!

It's like arguing with French soldiers in the Holy Grail.

It is a question of whether we choose to believe Mr Quinn or not. There has been too many lies disseminated over the Scully issue already. To maintain the big lie it is still to their best interest to continue lying.

I'm the last person to believe everything that's said about Scully and his family but distrusting the word of John Quinn is a bit of a stretch. For one thing Scully has done times like that before and has excelled at a number of different forms of endurance testing in the past. What reason would Quinn have for lying?

Because he is with GWS. Nothing personal but I expect he will tow the company line.

I am too serious ..... AND I take too much acid?!?!

It's like arguing with French soldiers in the Holy Grail.

A brilliant scene that one...

"is there somebody else we can talk too?"

I'm the last person to believe everything that's said about Scully and his family but distrusting the word of John Quinn is a bit of a stretch. For one thing Scully has done times like that before and has excelled at a number of different forms of endurance testing in the past. What reason would Quinn have for lying?

AFL $$ just maybe?

Because he is with GWS. Nothing personal but I expect he will tow the company line.

Like WJ, I think you're drawing a long bow Jackie but I can understand why you would.

GW$ and the AFL have invited this sort of skepticism with their shoddy conduct. It's unfortunate for someone like John Quinn or any other employee at GW$ of good repute, but that's what happens when you lie down with dogs.

AFL $$ just maybe?

yes..but to what end.

If it is hocum and his knee is crock it will show in his performance if he gets to perform at all.

Mitch Clark has sizzling on the track, Tom who? yeah Tommy Mc has been killing 'em......Scully who?????????????

Like WJ, I think you're drawing a long bow Jackie but I can understand why you would.

GW$ and the AFL have invited this sort of skepticism with their shoddy conduct. It's unfortunate for someone like John Quinn or any other employee at GW$ of good repute, but that's what happens when you lie down with dogs.

agreed - there has been so much of " i have no idea what to believe anymore" that I now tend to take everything with a very tiny grain of salt.

yes..but to what end.

If it is hocum and his knee is crock it will show in his performance if he gets to perform at all.

Totally agree, but i think it is very strange that a chronic dodgy knee that missed half our season is now setting a seriously good time within months.

Still can't hit a target by hand or foot.

I never liked this from the beginning. His latent knee problems resurfaced uncomfortably soon after the start of the GWS rumours despite reports he was training like a gun immediately beforehand. The rumours and his dicky knee tracked a parallel course for the remainder of the season. Despite the occasional bandage and icepack he never moved or looked like he carried an injury in his few games with us last season. Then he signs the biggest ever AFL contract despite having a season ruined by injury with associated poor form and diminished skills. All too much to believe unless I like to feel gullible.