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Cale is showing some positive signs recently, he was right in the contest on a tough night on Saturday.

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Whenever I think about List Management I prefer to be as dispassionate and reasoned as I possibly can.

And The Morton Question is a prime example of why.

If we get rid of him do we have the chance to bring in someone whose talents would outweigh the possible benefits of another couple seasons of Cale working with Misson and Neeld?

I know it depends on who else is leaving but I just don't see it as prudent to move Cale on if his endeavour and desire is up (as it has been) and we can see some light at the end of Misson Tunnel for Cale.

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90% of people don't understand statistics. The other 50% don't care.

Your admission that you made it up without any facts to back it is appreciated.

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Your admission that you made it up without any facts to back it is appreciated.

Sure sure.

What about Cale's mis-directed 3 metre handpass to Brent Moloney when we were surging against the Dogs in the final quarter?? That wouldn't count in your definition of disposal efficiency would it. But of course his skills are elite aren't they? Where are your facts then buddy?

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As one of Mort's biggest critics over the journey, I have to admit that he has started to show "something" since the last quarter against the Bulldogs. I've never bought into the "elite skills" or "elite running" stuff that gets thrown around because he's not a gutsy kind of player, and I hate when people say "we need outside players like Morton" and I think that is total BS. But lately I've seen the beginnings of an appetite for hard work. Yet to see these supposed silky skills, but something is starting to click, he's still making a few Morton Senior (aka Cam Bruce) clangers, but for the first time in years I feel hope for him.

Let's give him as many games as he earns this year and then by seasons end he's either a hungry (I know, he always looks hungry haha), hard working, versatile regular 22 player, or he's packed off...

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As one of Mort's biggest critics over the journey, I have to admit that he has started to show "something" since the last quarter against the Bulldogs. I've never bought into the "elite skills" or "elite running" stuff that gets thrown around because he's not a gutsy kind of player, and I hate when people say "we need outside players like Morton" and I think that is total BS. But lately I've seen the beginnings of an appetite for hard work. Yet to see these supposed silky skills, but something is starting to click, he's still making a few Morton Senior (aka Cam Bruce) clangers, but for the first time in years I feel hope for him.

Let's give him as many games as he earns this year and then by seasons end he's either a hungry (I know, he always looks hungry haha), hard working, versatile regular 22 player, or he's packed off...

Hey, even I acknowledge his last two games he has put a lot more effort into his play. I have no doubt he has been told what he has to do. Rawlings said he didn't have the trust of the players over summer and he looks like he is working to rebuild that.

I so want him to be a good player who puts in week in week out. It's simply that I am at my wits end because he has been given chance after chance. And many of us have been disappointed time and time again with insipid efforts. So here's hoping I and many others here are proven wrong.

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Hey, even I acknowledge his last two games he has put a lot more effort into his play. I have no doubt he has been told what he has to do. Rawlings said he didn't have the trust of the players over summer and he looks like he is working to rebuild that.

I so want him to be a good player who puts in week in week out. It's simply that I am at my wits end because he has been given chance after chance. And many of us have been disappointed time and time again with insipid efforts. So here's hoping I and many others here are proven wrong.

Same here mate. Has frustrated me because in the past I've felt like his drafting position has awarded him more chances than others, I have hope for the first time though.

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Sure sure.

What about Cale's mis-directed 3 metre handpass to Brent Moloney when we were surging against the Dogs in the final quarter?? That wouldn't count in your definition of disposal efficiency would it. But of course his skills are elite aren't they? Where are your facts then buddy?

You mean the one that Moloney barely even reached out his hands to grab?

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You mean the one that Moloney barely even reached out his hands to grab?

You are kidding right? Should have hit him on the [censored] without question. But if you really believe that was good play by Cale rather than a mistake then it tells me all I need to know about your opinions.

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Thought he was [censored] against the Dogs, but really liked his game against the Saints. Got his hands on the pill and used it well when he had it.

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You are kidding right? Should have hit him on the [censored] without question. But if you really believe that was good play by Cale rather than a mistake then it tells me all I need to know about your opinions.

It was a shitty handpass that Moloney couldn't be farked reaching out to grab.

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You are kidding right? Should have hit him on the [censored] without question. But if you really believe that was good play by Cale rather than a mistake then it tells me all I need to know about your opinions.

... and us about yours.

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Sure sure. What about Cale's mis-directed 3 metre handpass to Brent Moloney when we were surging against the Dogs in the final quarter?? That wouldn't count in your definition of disposal efficiency would it. But of course his skills are elite aren't they? Where are your facts then buddy?

One poor handball sure proves he turns it over 40% of the time.

And I don't have to prove anything - you're the one making outrageous claims. 40% turnover rate is a very damning brush to paint a player with. If you're going to make outrageous claims, the onus is on you to prove it.

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It was a shitty handpass that Moloney couldn't be farked reaching out to grab.

That's my take on it too after seeing it again. Shit handpass and a shit effort at getting it. Both players lose.

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Whenever I think about List Management I prefer to be as dispassionate and reasoned as I possibly can.

And The Morton Question is a prime example of why.

If we get rid of him do we have the chance to bring in someone whose talents would outweigh the possible benefits of another couple seasons of Cale working with Misson and Neeld?

I know it depends on who else is leaving but I just don't see it as prudent to move Cale on if his endeavour and desire is up (as it has been) and we can see some light at the end of Misson Tunnel for Cale.

As one of Mort's biggest critics over the journey, I have to admit that he has started to show "something" since the last quarter against the Bulldogs. I've never bought into the "elite skills" or "elite running" stuff that gets thrown around because he's not a gutsy kind of player, and I hate when people say "we need outside players like Morton" and I think that is total BS. But lately I've seen the beginnings of an appetite for hard work. Yet to see these supposed silky skills, but something is starting to click, he's still making a few Morton Senior (aka Cam Bruce) clangers, but for the first time in years I feel hope for him.

Let's give him as many games as he earns this year and then by seasons end he's either a hungry (I know, he always looks hungry haha), hard working, versatile regular 22 player, or he's packed off...

We have (I think) another 17 games in 2012.

Cale has plenty of time to prove to Neeld that he has the physical and mental attributes to stay with us beyond this season.

Over to you, Cale. Do you really want it?

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Been mentioned a few times this thread and heaps over summer, and I don't want this to turn into a Morton bashing session, but am I the only one that finds it odd that a player would need to hire a personal trainer. We have coaches, fitness staff and world standard training facilities. Each player at this level has they're own specific training loads worked out with individual goals in mind. Why would anyone need a personal trainer??? I find it odd

Lots of players do it...even Jobe Watson did extra boxing sessions away from the club priot ot the 2006 season.

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Took another step forward today and played his hardest game yet. I really see him becoming a vital player for us in the coming years. Don't write him off yet.

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15 points down in the third quarter and about to push into attack, another lazy Morton handpass is blocked, turned over and Geelong goal. after that i think they blew it out to around 40pts......it was a critical time in the game. another moment later in the game when some heat was applied to him and he gave a handpass straight to a cats player.

i think his progress has been ok in recent weeks but i was disappointed with him today. this is not meant to be an out and out bagging of the guy, but he really is soo soft he almost becomes a liability. he is in our best 22 ATM but i really just don't want him in our side going forward because he continually lets you down when he needs to do the hard things.


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15 points down in the third quarter and about to push into attack, another lazy Morton handpass is blocked, turned over and Geelong goal. after that i think they blew it out to around 40pts......it was a critical time in the game. another moment later in the game when some heat was applied to him and he gave a handpass straight to a cats player.

Was an infuriating moment in an otherwise promising game, and Cale can hardly be held responsible for the 4 goals that followed. Chapman and Johnson stepped up a gear when needed. We don't have players near their level.

i think his progress has been ok in recent weeks but i was disappointed with him today. this is not meant to be an out and out bagging of the guy, but he really is soo soft he almost becomes a liability. he is in our best 22 ATM but i really just don't want him in our side going forward because he continually lets you down when he needs to do the hard things.

His progress was good again today, he is coming from a low base Cale but he threw himself around and did something even more brave - actually ran and spread and found the ball in space - something many team mates didn't look for.

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Was an infuriating moment in an otherwise promising game, and Cale can hardly be held responsible for the 4 goals that followed. Chapman and Johnson stepped up a gear when needed. We don't have players near their level.

His progress was good again today, he is coming from a low base Cale but he threw himself around and did something even more brave - actually ran and spread and found the ball in space - something many team mates didn't look for.

true he can't be held responsible for the following four goals, but even though we weren't really a chance, it did change momentum.

i like Cale's run and spread, but he is so deficient in his physical game, he needs to be spot on in everything else, and he's just not.

i really can't see him in our team when we are a serious side, but thats just my opinion.

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Still believe he can make it, but I'm far from getting excited. It wasn't a great performance today, and I'm amazed at those that put him as our best.

Semantics, but no-one has said 'best' but outside of Clark, Grimes, Garland, Frawley, and Jones, Morton was cometing with some very up-and-down performances.

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Morton's kicking accuracy is probably more reliable in the last few weeks than most in our team and he reminded me of someone else when he broke out of the midfield, ran in and nearly kicked a goal today from 55 metres out. Give him time and confidence and everything I said about him might just be proven wrong.

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Semantics, but no-one has said 'best' but outside of Clark, Grimes, Garland, Frawley, and Jones, Morton was cometing with some very up-and-down performances.

Someone did, I can't be bothered to find it, but will at some stage just for you RP...

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Someone did, I can't be bothered to find it, but will at some stage just for you RP...

I'd prefer you have a beer or something.

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