The No T$ No B$ Thread

[Demon trucker 1,800]

Just read  page 949, made no sense, where are the bogans

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

8 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Just read  page 949, made no sense, where are the bogans

You say that like you think the previous 948 were any different ...

[dieter 3,325]

12 hours ago, daisycutter said:

no, just another untermensch

We already know that...

[dieter 3,325]

8 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

Just read  page 949, made no sense, where are the bogans

All you need is a mirror. They must have them in Echuca. Do you know Doug Goldsworthy?

[Demon trucker 1,800]

4 hours ago, dieter said:

All you need is a mirror. They must have them in Echuca. Do you know Doug Goldsworthy?

No I am Italian can't be a bogan, to cool, nope don't know Doug, i work at the abattoir, they are all bogan there, all got the sack, Union cost everyone their job, they closed it down because Union said no.

[dieter 3,325]

2 hours ago, don't make me angry said:

No I am Italian can't be a bogan, to cool, nope don't know Doug, i work at the abattoir, they are all bogan there, all got the sack, Union cost everyone their job, they closed it down because Union said no.

If you're Italian you need a mirror anyway. Unions have been known to do very stupid things. My father always used to say it's because we inherited the British Trade Relations model where it's all about confrontation instead of co-operation. Go Dees. I mention Doug because I used to work with him at Tisdall in the early 80's. Doug is a keen Demon man...

[Redleg 40,994]

Pity the Crows were decimated with injuries.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Headline of the year

 

[daisycutter 29,627]

heads up for @Moonshadow & @Ethan Tremblay.  just 2 more sleeps !

[Moonshadow 17,676]

42 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

heads up for @Moonshadow & @Ethan Tremblay.  just 2 more sleeps !

Until???

[daisycutter 29,627]

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Until???

big big mistake.......only 0 sleeps

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Err, what's your point Daisy?

Did you miss Play School today?

[daisycutter 29,627]

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Err, what's your point Daisy?

Did you miss Play School today?

nah, just figured you and ethan would be big sheldon fans 

and i've graduated from play school to peppa pig, thanks to grandsons 

[Moonshadow 17,676]

39 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

big big mistake.......only 0 sleeps

Somehow I pictured you looking like that in your very distant youth Daisy. But in black 'n white, of course

[Ethan Tremblay 30,905]

1 hour ago, daisycutter said:

big big mistake.......only 0 sleeps

I’ve never had the urge to punch a kid until I saw the ad for that show. 

[Earl Hood 6,086]

 

Out and about in the Corvette today in Fitzroy.

I want to add some colour and class to revitalise this thread that seems to be losing its chutzpah dare I say! 

Its amazing how the homeless Street people are energised when I drive past in the Vette

It is just part of how I am giving back to society now that I am retired but back contracting part time, the new retired system it seems these days! 

 

[daisycutter 29,627]

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Somehow I pictured you looking like that in your very distant youth Daisy. But in black 'n white, of course

now no need to be disrespectful, moonie. and in my childhood sepia was all the rage.

 

49 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

 

Out and about in the Corvette today in Fitzroy.

I want to add some colour and class to revitalise this thread that seems to be losing its chutzpah dare I say! 

Its amazing how the homeless Street people are energised when I drive past in the Vette

It is just part of how I am giving back to society now that I am retired but back contracting part time, the new retired system it seems these days! 

 

just as long as you don't leave it parked on the street overnight in hipsroy, earl.  spraypaint, vomit and latte dregs can be difficult  to clean off.  thought you'd be more a bentley man than a yank muscle car jock

[Earl Hood 6,086]

22 hours ago, daisycutter said:

now no need to be disrespectful, moonie. and in my childhood sepia was all the rage.

 

just as long as you don't leave it parked on the street overnight in hipsroy, earl.  spraypaint, vomit and latte dregs can be difficult  to clean off.  thought you'd be more a bentley man than a yank muscle car jock

This is what can happen if you leave the car out in Fitzroy. Yes Daisy you have a point. But the Corvette is parked securely with the Bentley, no need to worry. 

[Redleg 40,994]

Not condoning what Smith and co did, but they aren't the first, in a game full of cheating.

Just look at the doctored pitches, you need go no further.

[old dee 23,801]

7 hours ago, Redleg said:

Not condoning what Smith and co did, but they aren't the first, in a game full of cheating.

Just look at the doctored pitches, you need go no further.

I think what has happened dc is they have paid the price for all the sins of the Aussie team over the last decade. All the bulling and bad sportsmanship of the last decade has come out in these penalities. For a decade or more the cricket board have been trying for better behaviour and now was their chance to drive home the fact better behaviour is needed. Why else would you take out the two best batsman for potentially ever? Warner will never play for Australia again, Smith may but after a year off and in his mental state will he ever be as good?  All three will carry the cheating label till the day they die and they will carry it for all the cricket cheats internationally who got away with wet tram ticket penalities. The up side? Perhaps players in the future will consider what happened here and refrain from cheating I cannot see any other as we are going to be the easy beats internationally for the next few years. I am not happy about that but cheating and bulling by the Australian team must stop. 

[daisycutter 29,627]

1 hour ago, old dee said:

I think what has happened dc is they have paid the price for all the sins of the Aussie team over the last decade. All the bulling and bad sportsmanship of the last decade has come out in these penalities. For a decade or more the cricket board have been trying for better behaviour and now was their chance to drive home the fact better behaviour is needed. Why else would you take out the two best batsman for potentially ever? Warner will never play for Australia again, Smith may but after a year off and in his mental state will he ever be as good?  All three will carry the cheating label till the day they die and they will carry it for all the cricket cheats internationally who got away with wet tram ticket penalities. The up side? Perhaps players in the future will consider what happened here and refrain from cheating I cannot see any other as we are going to be the easy beats internationally for the next few years. I am not happy about that but cheating and bulling by the Australian team must stop. 

rather appropriate for easter, od

being crucified for the sins of others, that is...............

[old dee 23,801]

28 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

rather appropriate for easter, od

being crucified for the sins of others, that is...............

Yep Good Friday and all dc.

if you can't do the time don't do the crime.

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Although Jesus was known as a carpenter, he never actually sang on any of their albums

[Redleg 40,994]

2 hours ago, old dee said:

Yep Good Friday and all dc.

if you can't do the time don't do the crime.

Even that is interesting, as the ICC handed out their penalty of one match as others have got over the years. The time should fit the crime, that is my point.

It was all the hysteria in Oz that landed these guys the heavy penalties, not to mention the shame and money lost. 

I am not excusing cheating as that is what it was, but penalties should be the same for everyone.

Remind me again what the South African Captain the mint sucker, got for putting a zipper on his cricket pants and rubbing the ball on the steel zipper, which would have impacted far more than the sandpaper. Don't recall him showing remorse and  crying and being shamed in front of the world.

"Current South African captain Faf du Plessis has been found guilty of ball tampering multiple times. The first time was in 2013, when cameras caught him scuffing the ball with his trouser zip during a Test against Pakistan in Dubai. Three years later against Australia, he used mint saliva on the ball and was fined his match fee."

Read the full article: 

Bizarre ways of ball tampering: Mint, zipper, teeth and now sandpaper

Ball tampering has been around for decades in cricket and is back in the limelight after Australia’s Cameron Bancroft used a yellow strip of sandpaper to alter the shape of the red cherry during the Australia vs South Africa Test

Last Published: Mon, Mar 26 2018. 05 57 PM IST

Bharat Sharma

 

 

New Delhi: Teeth, zipper, mint and add sandpaper to it now, the desperation to extract reverse swing in unfavourable conditions has driven international teams to find bizarre ways to tamper the ball. Cameron Bancroft hiding a yellow strip of sandpaper in his pants easily fits into one of the many bizarre ball tampering tactics but perhaps more sillier in execution when hawks like ‘Oscar-The Cameraman’ are in operation.

The phenomenon of ball tampering has been around for decades in the gentleman’s game and the infamous incident in the third Test between Australia and South Africa has only put spotlight back into the ‘illegal yet almost unavoidable’ tactic.

In the mid-70’s, one of the earliest allegations of ball tampering was levelled against England seamer John Lever, whom the Indian captain Bishan Singh Bedi had accused of using vaseline to aid pronounced swing during MCC’s tour of India in 1976. Bedi was then targeted by the British media for trying to malign an England player.

 

The rule allows the use of sweat and saliva to shine the ball but it becomes an offence the moment you do that with an “artificial substance”, leaving a grey area in between. The fielding sides has been found working on the ball for decades but it was not until 2000 when Waqar Younis became the first cricketer to be suspended for ball tampering.

However during Pakistan’s tour of 1992, the two W’s Wasim and Waqar were accused of getting excessive reverse swing with allegation that they used bottle opener to scruff up the seam of the Dukes ball. Repeatedly bouncing one side on the ground and scratching the seam are common ways of getting the seam scruffed up on abrasive surfaces but some players suddenly become more “creative” than required.

Bottle openers, zippers of trousers, lip balm, hair gel, or in Bancroft’s case, a sandpaper then come into use. Back in 1994, England captain Michael Atherton was accused of ball-tampering after cameras caught him rubbing the ball with the hidden dirt in his trousers’ pocket.

 

Atherton later claimed that he had dirt in his pocket to dry his hands but was still fined £2,000 for not disclosing the substance. The then England skipper’s case will never be proved but sometimes confession by players make the job much easier for the match referee, like it happened with under-fire Australian Steve Smith and Bancroft in the recently concluded third Test.

Some choose to confess after they retire, like what former England opener Marcus Trescothick did. The stylish batsman has revealed in his book that he used mint-induced saliva to shine the ball during the 2005 Ashes. “Murray Mints worked really well,” wrote Trescothick.

In 2010, former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi found a new way to prepare the ball as he was caught on television biting the seam during a T20 International against Australia. It resulted in a two-match ban though Afridi claimed that he was only trying to smell the ball.

 

Current South African captain Faf du Plessis has been found guilty of ball tampering multiple times. The first time was in 2013, when cameras caught him scuffing the ball with his trouser zip during a Test against Pakistan in Dubai. Three years later against Australia, he used mint saliva on the ball and was fined his match fee.

Commenting on the controversial subject, former India pacer Ashish Nehra said that there is nothing new about ball tampering. “Yes, it’s an art but then stealing is also an art. Would you put a thief in jail or praise him. Reverse swing is an art but ball tampering is dishonesty. And there are ways to prepare a ball for reverse swing without tampering,” said Nehra, who is one of India’s finest exponents of swing bowling.

“Also this is a phenomena, you will find mainly in Test cricket as in T20 and ODIs, it’s difficult to reverse the white ball. In ODIs, two new white balls are used, so chances are really less. It’s only in Test cricket which is played for a considerable amount of time that teams want their bowlers to try reverse swing,” he added. PTI

 

First Published: Mon, Mar 26 2018. 05 56 PM IST

 

 

 

[old dee 23,801]

6 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Even that is interesting, as the ICC handed out their penalty of one match as others have got over the years. The time should fit the crime, that is my point.

It was all the hysteria in Oz that landed these guys the heavy penalties, not to mention the shame and money lost. 

I am not excusing cheating as that is what it was, but penalties should be the same for everyone.

Remind me again what the South African Captain the mint sucker, got for putting a zipper on his cricket pants and rubbing the ball on the steel zipper, which would have impacted far more than the sandpaper. Don't recall him showing remorse and  crying and being shamed in front of the world.

"Current South African captain Faf du Plessis has been found guilty of ball tampering multiple times. The first time was in 2013, when cameras caught him scuffing the ball with his trouser zip during a Test against Pakistan in Dubai. Three years later against Australia, he used mint saliva on the ball and was fined his match fee."

Read the full article: 

Bizarre ways of ball tampering: Mint, zipper, teeth and now sandpaper

Ball tampering has been around for decades in cricket and is back in the limelight after Australia’s Cameron Bancroft used a yellow strip of sandpaper to alter the shape of the red cherry during the Australia vs South Africa Test

Last Published: Mon, Mar 26 2018. 05 57 PM IST

Bharat Sharma

 

 

New Delhi: Teeth, zipper, mint and add sandpaper to it now, the desperation to extract reverse swing in unfavourable conditions has driven international teams to find bizarre ways to tamper the ball. Cameron Bancroft hiding a yellow strip of sandpaper in his pants easily fits into one of the many bizarre ball tampering tactics but perhaps more sillier in execution when hawks like ‘Oscar-The Cameraman’ are in operation.

The phenomenon of ball tampering has been around for decades in the gentleman’s game and the infamous incident in the third Test between Australia and South Africa has only put spotlight back into the ‘illegal yet almost unavoidable’ tactic.

In the mid-70’s, one of the earliest allegations of ball tampering was levelled against England seamer John Lever, whom the Indian captain Bishan Singh Bedi had accused of using vaseline to aid pronounced swing during MCC’s tour of India in 1976. Bedi was then targeted by the British media for trying to malign an England player.

 

The rule allows the use of sweat and saliva to shine the ball but it becomes an offence the moment you do that with an “artificial substance”, leaving a grey area in between. The fielding sides has been found working on the ball for decades but it was not until 2000 when Waqar Younis became the first cricketer to be suspended for ball tampering.

However during Pakistan’s tour of 1992, the two W’s Wasim and Waqar were accused of getting excessive reverse swing with allegation that they used bottle opener to scruff up the seam of the Dukes ball. Repeatedly bouncing one side on the ground and scratching the seam are common ways of getting the seam scruffed up on abrasive surfaces but some players suddenly become more “creative” than required.

Bottle openers, zippers of trousers, lip balm, hair gel, or in Bancroft’s case, a sandpaper then come into use. Back in 1994, England captain Michael Atherton was accused of ball-tampering after cameras caught him rubbing the ball with the hidden dirt in his trousers’ pocket.

 

Atherton later claimed that he had dirt in his pocket to dry his hands but was still fined £2,000 for not disclosing the substance. The then England skipper’s case will never be proved but sometimes confession by players make the job much easier for the match referee, like it happened with under-fire Australian Steve Smith and Bancroft in the recently concluded third Test.

Some choose to confess after they retire, like what former England opener Marcus Trescothick did. The stylish batsman has revealed in his book that he used mint-induced saliva to shine the ball during the 2005 Ashes. “Murray Mints worked really well,” wrote Trescothick.

In 2010, former Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi found a new way to prepare the ball as he was caught on television biting the seam during a T20 International against Australia. It resulted in a two-match ban though Afridi claimed that he was only trying to smell the ball.

 

Current South African captain Faf du Plessis has been found guilty of ball tampering multiple times. The first time was in 2013, when cameras caught him scuffing the ball with his trouser zip during a Test against Pakistan in Dubai. Three years later against Australia, he used mint saliva on the ball and was fined his match fee.

Commenting on the controversial subject, former India pacer Ashish Nehra said that there is nothing new about ball tampering. “Yes, it’s an art but then stealing is also an art. Would you put a thief in jail or praise him. Reverse swing is an art but ball tampering is dishonesty. And there are ways to prepare a ball for reverse swing without tampering,” said Nehra, who is one of India’s finest exponents of swing bowling.

“Also this is a phenomena, you will find mainly in Test cricket as in T20 and ODIs, it’s difficult to reverse the white ball. In ODIs, two new white balls are used, so chances are really less. It’s only in Test cricket which is played for a considerable amount of time that teams want their bowlers to try reverse swing,” he added. PTI

 

First Published: Mon, Mar 26 2018. 05 56 PM IST

 

 

 

Hmm seems you are fired up about this Mr. Leg. Cannot share your enthusiasm for the poor hardly done by boys. Cheats belong in other places not the Aussie teams. If the penalties were a bit high so be it others might think more in the future.