Juice!!!

Michael Newton is improving and should make an excellent captain in a couple of years.

For me Beamer. This year has proved that Green was a very bad call, and should have been Moloney.

Great when your "captain" goes out on the fizz and makes a social embarrassment of himself. Battled to hold the VC role.

Well, and I know I many will disagree with this, I am of the opinion that the club should be making some sort of guarantee of captaincy down the track (based on performance criteria of course), so that he is encouraged to remain at the club.

It cant if the players vote for captain. On the same performance crtieria then Scully is odds to be captain of GWS at some stage.

Short term Rivers is actually the most likely (according to current players).

Long term, give it to Trenners. His actions following his suspension have been a stand out for me in terms of poise, ability to speak to the media about a variety of issues, and his onfield actions have no peer.

Short Term - No

Long Term - Quite possibly.

How Aaron Davey has fallen...

I hope it's not an Adem Yze like decline at the end of his career.

How Aaron Davey has fallen...

I hope it's not an Adem Yze like decline at the end of his career.

It was sad to see 'Oooze' struggling at the end.

I'm not sure Davey's in the same boat atm.

Trenners......the only young fella at the club with a bit of mongrel in him, and i think that is what this footy club lacks

Long Term it seems to be out of Grimes and Trengove IMO

This inclination that you need to have mongrel to be a successful captain is a myth

JT for mine.

'Good times' Grimes may have straight laced leader written all over him, but you get the feeling from the snippets of Col Garland and Ricky bobbies articles that good times may just be too serious for the calling. He might end up a bit like Sam Mitchell - deadset gun however the 'spiritual leader' in Hodge was the real captain and has now been named. I reckon JT may end up the 'spiritual leadr' of this gorup coming through. don't know why just do. plus he's just an all out all round gun

Another here for Trenners. Love Grimesy but i want someone with a bit of attitude and spark.

How Aaron Davey has fallen...

I hope it's not an Adem Yze like decline at the end of his career.

Davey broke his leg last year against the hawks...ended his season. I wonder if that broken leg is partly to blame for his current issues.

Lets hope Davey can get back into the side.

Scully

Are we better off with a captain that we, the general membership, can get behind, who we trust in the media to say the right things, and perform on-field, performing bone crunching tackles and kicking 50m+ goals with ease, or...

Do we want a captain that never says anything to anyone, struggles to get a game in the best 22, but motivates the hell out of the rest of the team, pushing them to be their best each and every week?

I guess we have to ask, what is the role of the captain, and what is the role of the leadership group.

Jack Watts.

Reasons:

- Star: I believe he has more star potential than any other player on our list (admittedly, this is yet to be proven).

- Charisma: Some have it, others don't - Jack has it.

- Size: He is turning into a physical specimen - not that size is a prerequisite for leadership, but it certainly helps.

- Media: The camera loves him and he is very well spoken.

- Aggression: I think this is an underrated trait in Jack. He doesn't take a backwards step. With size and responsibility, will come more aggression.

- Teamplay: While watching him during games, I noticed he is very encouraging and positive towards teammates.

I don't think any other player on our list has this combination of leadership traits. Jack Watts for captain.

Trenners......the only young fella at the club with a bit of mongrel in him, and i think that is what this footy club lacks

Your not calling Jordie Mckenzie soft?

No doubt if Scully gives up squillions to stay with us there will be some 'sweeteners' in the deal...

No doubt if Scully gives up squillions to stay with us there will be some 'sweeteners' in the deal...

If, scully changes his mind and stays,,,,, then he'll have to take some time to earn back the trust of the group, so they can believe him again....

....if he goes,,, he'll have the same problem @ the GWS,,, can they ever believe in him when he says something!!

!!!!!!!!!!!! Integrity,,,, born with it and carry it for years, till adolescence when we get some Latitude with It,,, 'til we're expected to 'Live Up to It',,,,, Or we will never have it again...

Frawley has shown the most leadership, courage and consistency out of the younger group of potential captains. He is the standout for the job IMO. Trengove is only playing his second year so it's too early to tell and Grimes is hard to judge because he hasn't come close to getting a full season under his belt.

And why are Jamar/Moloney on a poll for the player to "emerge as a long term captain"? They are 27 and 28 this year and Green is only in his first year as captain.

Frawley has shown the most leadership, courage and consistency out of the younger group of potential captains. He is the standout for the job IMO. Trengove is only playing his second year so it's too early to tell and Grimes is hard to judge because he hasn't come close to getting a full season under his belt.

And why are Jamar/Moloney on a poll for the player to "emerge as a long term captain"? They are 27 and 28 this year and Green is only in his first year as captain.

*Edit ... You're right, have removed Jamar, Moloney and Sylvia as choices. It is a "long term" Captain poll.

If, scully changes his mind and stays,,,,, then he'll have to take some time to earn back the trust of the group, so they can believe him again....

....if he goes,,, he'll have the same problem @ the GWS,,, can they ever believe in him when he says something!!

!!!!!!!!!!!! Integrity,,,, born with it and carry it for years, till adolescence when we get some Latitude with It,,, 'til we're expected to 'Live Up to It',,,,, Or we will never have it again...

Why will he have 'changed his mind' if he stays? I wasn't aware he'd made up his mind to leave...

If, scully changes his mind and stays,,,,, then he'll have to take some time to earn back the trust of the group, so they can believe him again....

....if he goes,,, he'll have the same problem @ the GWS,,, can they ever believe in him when he says something!!

!!!!!!!!!!!! Integrity,,,, born with it and carry it for years, till adolescence when we get some Latitude with It,,, 'til we're expected to 'Live Up to It',,,,, Or we will never have it again...

If Tom does decide to stay. I would have absolutely no problem with him being Captain from Round 1 2012.

He has the x factor that a great captain needs, just watch his final Quarter against the Dogs last year again.

Captaincy written all over it.

Don't blame Tom for holding out on a decision, with the HOA stalemate at present Blame the AFL if anyone.

I don't like the waiting either, but if no decision has been made do not blame Tom.

He will be a captain though.

If Tom does decide to stay. I would have absolutely no problem with him being Captain from Round 1 2012.

No way. He's 20. Crazy talk.

No way. He's 20. Crazy talk.

Not at all. His Professional attitude could be the best thing this club has seen in years in terms of leadership.

If Tom decides to stay, the club must be bold.

I'm starting to like Beamer more than I ever have...But Beamer can't dominate against the higher ranked teams...his stats are great when we win and poor when we lose...is at the age of 27 so doesn't fit the longer term leadership plans of melb... and has admited he has a binge drinking problem...not a good look for a captain.

That being said...he hasn't been injured this year...has gained his VC back...if he can dominated the second half of the year against the higher ranked sides. He will strongly push his case..

Why single out Beamer? All our players are great when we're up, and go missing when we're struggling, before last week many, many on these forums were saying this about Sylvia.. He was brilliant and probably the only shinning light last week.

Agree with Demon WA. Voted for Trengove, but if Grimes was to stay on the park then would go with him.

What about short term? If Green decided to step down to 'concentrate on his footy', would Moloney be next in line?

He wont step down and nor should.