DemonSG 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 The question now that must be asked ... how long before we decide we need a new coach. If we wait until season is over, I believe would be a mistake I reckon most good (proven) coaches will be already taken by years end. Malthouse will not stick around at the filth and must be considered. Eade is not an option, has left Dogs as he left Sydney, in disaray. It is something that the club must consider now, wait until seasons end when the good coaches are already signed would leave us with the situation we now are in, next best option please. Time we stopped ovoiding the enevitable, the football dept needs a whole new stucture, we have the players, though young, but not the leadership on or off the playing field.
old dee 24,082 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Oh please Bailey is the coach for 2011. Lets get over it, lets win some games in the next two months and worry about it then. The subject is almost as boring as "will Scully stay"
Tigers Dayz 2 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 We should thank our lucky stars that Malthouse will not be available whether we wait or not! We just saved ouselves squillons on a figurehead. 11 years to get a flag in the wealthiest club in the land... give me a break! What's the rush? We have a coach. We can find a "manager" if necessary at any time. Dime a dozen! It's the FD and Cattle who do the job!
Old Man Rivers 326 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 The question now that must be asked... how long before we decide we need a new coach. If we wait until season is over, I believe would be a mistake I reckon most good (proven) coaches will be already taken by years end. Malthouse will not stick around at the filth and must be considered. Eade is not an option, has left Dogs as he left Sydney, in disaray. It is something that the club must consider now, wait until seasons end when the good coaches are already signed would leave us with the situation we now are in, next best option please. Time we stopped ovoiding the enevitable, the football dept needs a whole new stucture, we have the players, though young, but not the leadership on or off the playing field. You are damed if you do & damed if you don't. History suggests changing coach midseason is not ideal, however your point is very real. If we dont move quick enough some other club will. I think you will find there is every chance all options are being explored behind closed doors right now. Unlike Grumpy Old Dee I don't find this topic boring I find it very relevant to our short term future.
DemonSG 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Posted June 15, 2011 Oh please Bailey is the coach for 2011. Lets get over it, lets win some games in the next two months and worry about it then. The subject is almost as boring as "will Scully stay" If it's boring to you, go to bed, this is a serious issue not likely to go away soon, we need change and we need it now. How were you feeling on Monday if you were there?
jayceebee31 768 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Oh please Bailey is the coach for 2011. Lets get over it, lets win some games in the next two months and worry about it then. The subject is almost as boring as "will Scully stay" I agree- let's just settle down and win the next 3 games and at years end let the club work out both Scully & Bailey's future.
DemonSG 1 Posted June 15, 2011 Author Posted June 15, 2011 We should thank our lucky stars that Malthouse will not be available whether we wait or not! We just saved ouselves squillons on a figurehead. 11 years to get a flag in the wealthiest club in the land... give me a break! What's the rush? We have a coach. We can find a "manager" if necessary at any time. Dime a dozen! It's the FD and Cattle who do the job! hows the job going now?
Hardnut 327 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Reality is we are probably stuck with the incumbent coach until the end of the season, unfortunately. However, we should be proactively looking now for his replacement - waiting until the end of the season is not an option, as other successful clubs know only too well! This is far from a boring topic - it is crucial to the future of MFC.
Eth 4 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 *creates yet another paranoid thread on Tom Scully/Dean Bailey/inconsistency/premiership hopes
rpfc 29,020 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 I agree- let's just settle down and win the next 3 games and at years end let the club work out both Scully & Bailey's future. I'm with OD and JCB. No need to rush this. Let's do this at the end of the season.
Guest Artie Bucco Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Who says Bailey won't be coach in 2012..?
old dee 24,082 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 If it's boring to you, go to bed, this is a serious issue not likely to go away soon, we need change and we need it now. How were you feeling on Monday if you were there? No I have not had my cocoa yet.
Hardnut 327 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 This is not a case of settling down rpfc - some of us came to a calm, considered opinion a long time ago.
mrtwister 652 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 I know a lot of people have their own opinions on this but I have a hypothetical for you all. Does anyone think it's plausible that, assuming the club decide to remove Bailey from the head coaching role, the clubs find a tactical/motivating type for head coach and keep Bailey on as an assistant. He'd surely know all the players' abilities, habits and needs more than anyone else could. I guess my questions are: 1) Would Bailey be interested? 2) Will he get a better offer elsewhere? 3) Would a new coach feel comfortable with that arrangement? Go easy on me Artie
Hardnut 327 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Understand where you are coming from mrtwister - considered that idea myself - however, on balance, I don't believe it could work, particularly in this case.
Guest Artie Bucco Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Ill go easy - Bailey simply wouldn't do it. When has a head coach EVER stepped aside at a club, yet stayed on as an assistant? EVER? The answer should be telling.
Sir Why You Little 37,450 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Who is REALLY available...and that includes Bailey. The last thing we need is change for changes sake. And yes i was at Mondays Game. MCC level 2 so i saw it all unfold. Who wants the job, let's not just pile money at someone Malcolm Blight St.kilda style.
Hardnut 327 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Guess that settles it Artie - time to get a new coach!
Guest hangon007 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 I know a lot of people have their own opinions on this but I have a hypothetical for you all. Does anyone think it's plausible that, assuming the club decide to remove Bailey from the head coaching role, the clubs find a tactical/motivating type for head coach and keep Bailey on as an assistant. He'd surely know all the players' abilities, habits and needs more than anyone else could. I guess my questions are: 1) Would Bailey be interested? 2) Will he get a better offer elsewhere? 3) Would a new coach feel comfortable with that arrangement? Go easy on me Artie 1) Would Bailey be interested? IMHO No. No precedents either. 2) Will he get a better offer elsewhere? IMHO Yes. He would be at Essendon in no time ... they are very keen to win a flag. Probably not on that much less money either. 3) Would a new coach feel comfortable with that arrangement? No.
Hardnut 327 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 'Change for changes sake'! Monday's game! This has been coming for a long time - wake up to reality!
The Big Ticket 94 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Ill go easy - Bailey simply wouldn't do it. When has a head coach EVER stepped aside at a club, yet stayed on as an assistant? EVER? The answer should be telling. Crocker sprang to mind but he was only a caretaker. There's no way in hell DB would step aside.
mrtwister 652 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 Ill go easy - Bailey simply wouldn't do it. When has a head coach EVER stepped aside at a club, yet stayed on as an assistant? EVER? The answer should be telling. I accept it's never happened and I know it would be a bitterly sour pill to swallow. I was just wondering, hypothetical remember, whether Bailey would be offered anything else worth taking. I know there's no room for emotional attachment in pro sport today but I thought he'd consider still being part of his boys' development. Just thought I'd put it out there.
emubitter 0 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 sacking a coach mid season is a bad move, even when balme got tossed. can't recall many situations where it's worked; paul roos is the only one i can think of. but it will be biggest comeback since lazuras if dean is there next year
Rogue 585 Posted June 15, 2011 Posted June 15, 2011 If we wait until season is over, I believe would be a mistake I reckon most good (proven) coaches will be already taken by years end. Malthouse will not stick around at the filth and must be considered. Is Malthouse going to sign up somewhere else while the finals are on? Eade is not an option, has left Dogs as he left Sydney, in disaray. Okay, so who are these other 'good (proven) coaches'? Laidley? Williams? Sheedy (hah)? Matthews (hah)? How were their Clubs travelling when they left?
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