Posting an opinion on a forum...thats a bit cheeky Bub

was a bit really wasnt it...life on the edge for me !!

Exactly what he communicated and he meant it. If you think it's just a bit of selling, so be it, you're entitled to your view. I reckon you're sadly mistaken.

I may be mistaken..you know..it does happen. ( and to us all ) Sadly ?? why ? Here he is..rolled out...first day on the job. Any of us could have written his script. Predictable and unbackable at the TAB.

That was a lovely little piece of cake served up the the Cat-Lovers. All fluff.

What was it if not selling ?

I may be mistaken..you know..it does happen. ( and to us all ) Sadly ?? why ? Here he is..rolled out...first day on the job. Any of us could have written his script. Predictable and unbackable at the TAB.

That was a lovely little piece of cake served up the the Cat-Lovers. All fluff.

What was it if not selling ?

Reality?

Reality?

How can he KNOW the reality... its all supposition and spin.

He can sell an idea.... but theres nothing to back it just yet. What was...was. What will be..is arbitrary. Just a smidge of 'reality' snuck in when he suggested there was still much work to do. He knows he be a mug to put either the left or right on the chopping block just yet but hes towing the 'party' line> All good feely feely good stuff for the choir.

How can he KNOW the reality... its all supposition and spin.

Reality is how something appears to a given individual, we all have a different take on reality.

Scotts reality, and one I agree with, is that the cats have an amazing list still with 13 all australians, whilst also having a distinct home ground advantage that most don't share. They will blood kids, but a handful will be good kids.

Your reality is that their period of success is over, due to personnel loss and other teams catching up and surpassing them, being only Collingwood at this stage.

A change is what the doctor ordered, and my reality is that they are still one of the best in it.

How can he KNOW the reality... its all supposition and spin.

Tell that to the Geelong boys.

He can sell an idea.... but theres nothing to back it just yet. What was...was. What will be..is arbitrary. Just a smidge of 'reality' snuck in when he suggested there was still much work to do. He knows he be a mug to put either the left or right on the chopping block just yet but hes towing the 'party' line> All good feely feely good stuff for the choir.

Ugh. Mugs, chopping blocks and choirs....

Bring on 2011. Btw Bub, you still think Rivers is gone too ?

Tell that to the Geelong boys.

Ugh. Mugs, chopping blocks and choirs....

Bring on 2011. Btw Bub, you still think Rivers is gone too ?

good way to back an argument..very sloppy. Two distinct things.. You unable to distinguish ?

Youre welcome to your view. Top4 for geelong in 2011 fine. I say no.

good way to back an argument..very sloppy. Two distinct things.. You unable to distinguish ?

Sure. Two opinions.

As Mandy Rice Davies once famously said "Well, he would say that, wouldn't he"

I think Geelong will finish about 6th.

They have a good side, but will be learning a (not necessarily vastly different, but still) new system and have lost some key components.

They are still a good team, but the old players are another year older and I think they are beyond being one of the for-certain premiership contenders.

They'll play finals and be capable of playing in a GF, but in 2011 they'll be the smoky.

Careful there E25 not top 4 ? evade !!

Entirely agree 5-7 (likely)

the other ingredient are the other top 4 contenders. Well take the filth as a given .I'd put Saints Pups Dockers and Sqawkers right in the mix. Don't see the Cats now as an auto select above any of them. Be interesting to see if West stays now

Yep, I was just going to say I agreed with you Bub, but then I got carried away and wrote a whole post.

Cats are gone, anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves. Lucky to make the eight. Ablett had 40 touches against Collingwood and they still got belted. They'll sink faster than the titanic. A forward line of Mooney(32), Lonergran, Podsiadly(30) and Hawkins with no Ablett to feed it as a serious top 8 contender, no chance. Not to mention the long list of over the hill players, GONE. Check the ages of these blokes Chapman(30), Corey(29), Enright(30), Hunt(29), Ling(30), Ottens(31), Scarlett(32), Wojinski(31), Milburn(45). GONE, GONE, GONE

Yeah, they're as good as shot those All-Australian Players. They will all be terrible next year. They will all go from prime to poo in 5 seconds.

Cats are gone, anyone who thinks differently is kidding themselves. Lucky to make the eight. Ablett had 40 touches against Collingwood and they still got belted. They'll sink faster than the titanic. A forward line of Mooney(32), Lonergran, Podsiadly(30) and Hawkins with no Ablett to feed it as a serious top 8 contender, no chance. Not to mention the long list of over the hill players, GONE. Check the ages of these blokes Chapman(30), Corey(29), Enright(30), Hunt(29), Ling(30), Ottens(31), Scarlett(32), Wojinski(31), Milburn(45). GONE, GONE, GONE

Chapman has potential to really drop away especially with his hammy problems, Hunt is average always seems like he will dominate but never quite gets there, Ottens similar to Corey starting to age very quickly. Ling is the one who has already shown some drop off over this season he could be battling for a spot next year.

The end does come quickly and suddenly.

If it's not 2011, they will fall in a heap in 2012.

How would you possibly know that the structure and game style will change (significantly) to result in a loss of momentum ? You're just guessing.

You rule them in for Top 8, but rule them out of contention (written them off) for top 4 ? (where the difference could be just 1-2 wins).

IMO they're still a top 4 contender.

I agree- this may give them now the chance to play some young blood- I believe they still are one of the best 3 in the league.

To be top 3 in the league without he best player in the league, must mean that in 2010 they were clearly the best team in the league when they did have him.

Which they weren't.

That's how I judge it.

Yeah, they're as good as shot those All-Australian Players. They will all be terrible next year. They will all go from prime to poo in 5 seconds.

it will be interesting to see what happens - they could fade fast, hang in there for a top 4 finish, or more likely be wildly inconsistent.

they will still be a "dangerous" team next year not to be taken lightly. and hard to beat at the cattery

All hysterics aside I don't think anyones really suggesting the Geelong of 2011 won't be competetive and a very good side but they simply won't be the Geelong of 2010 let alone 2009. Yep they finished second on the ladder but started to show tiredness into the finals . It's not scurrilous to suggest they've peaked. And that was the "tried and tested " side . That's gone,coaches gone ( can't see Sanderlands sticking around now) Golden child gone, and all the wholes old legs get older and slower. Less rotations now too .

Will be interesting to see how Scott recasts the midfield and whether he leaves old dogs to old tricks or starts the revitalization process of injecting youth on a wholesale scale . You don't just go down the shop and buy the possessions Ablett got . That's abig hole and maybe even bigger than they really are prepared to concede . I don't agree with some pundits that his going only devalues the Cats by 3 or 4 % Very instrumental in so many forward thrusts . Many others looked better and walked taller with him in that side. Be curious to see a similar effect take hold possibly with GC . Chappy is very good but not in gods class. On his own will have more to do . I don't think his OLD mates will be the A Team in support they once were. Without GA to contain opposition teams can target Chappy. Might change dynamics considerably until some kids get up to speed. Mooney no longer the danger he was . Lost a yard easily. Scarlett still vg but how much can he shoulder and for how long ?

Longs looking a bit lost at times . Seems to really play well when rest of team on song . Goes flat a bit these days . Selwood ? Vg .. Nuff said . Milburn and Wojo a bit lucky I think to have that gig next year. Off the bench boys. There is still much talent and class at Skilled but the makeup is bound to change.

I don't think any team wil now enter onto Kardinia with awe any more. Geelong is just another vg side and no longer the feared mighty Cats.

All hysterics aside I don't think anyones really suggesting the Geelong of 2011 won't be competetive and a very good side but they simply won't be the Geelong of 2010 let alone 2009. Yep they finished second on the ladder but started to show tiredness into the finals . It's not scurrilous to suggest they've peaked. And that was the "tried and tested " side . That's gone,coaches gone ( can't see Sanderlands sticking around now) Golden child gone, and all the wholes old legs get older and slower. Less rotations now too .

Will be interesting to see how Scott recasts the midfield and whether he leaves old dogs to old tricks or starts the revitalization process of injecting youth on a wholesale scale . You don't just go down the shop and buy the possessions Ablett got . That's abig hole and maybe even bigger than they really are prepared to concede . I don't agree with some pundits that his going only devalues the Cats by 3 or 4 % Very instrumental in so many forward thrusts . Many others looked better and walked taller with him in that side. Be curious to see a similar effect take hold possibly with GC . Chappy is very good but not in gods class. On his own will have more to do . I don't think his OLD mates will be the A Team in support they once were. Without GA to contain opposition teams can target Chappy. Might change dynamics considerably until some kids get up to speed. Mooney no longer the danger he was . Lost a yard easily. Scarlett still vg but how much can he shoulder and for how long ?

Longs looking a bit lost at times . Seems to really play well when rest of team on song . Goes flat a bit these days . Selwood ? Vg .. Nuff said . Milburn and Wojo a bit lucky I think to have that gig next year. Off the bench boys. There is still much talent and class at Skilled but the makeup is bound to change.

I don't think any team wil now enter onto Kardinia with awe any more. Geelong is just another vg side and no longer the feared mighty Cats.

Waffle, Waffle, GONE!

Waffle, Waffle, GONE!

LOL! You got it in three words when others need 50.

These Scott brothers are made of stern stuff. Jumping into coaching with the same determination they played with. Geelong perceived to be on the decline. North permanent survival battlers. Both poison chalice positions. I'm sure many other higher profile coaching aspirants wouldn't dream of going near these clubs at the moment.

? I'm pretty sure aspiring head coaches take whichever job they can.

Very rarely do they get to have their pick of the vacant positions out there.

There are quite a few "high profile" options that end up always being a bridesmaid.