He is a gifted athlete, and has some great natural talent. Does he really want to play AFL footy?

IMVHO Stef did well as a defender, and adequately when asked to pinch hit up forward.

However he is not likely to make it as a forward alone.

He is mobile and, if /when fully fit could become a tall ruck rover.

I must've missed any game that he got within a bulls roar of appearing competent .

Went well in the GF sprint though .

I must've missed any game that he got within a bulls roar of appearing competent .

Went well in the GF sprint though .

He played about half a season of competent footy at CHB in 08, was even keeping Frawley out of the team.

But:

Can't play fullback - doesn't read the game well enough

Can't play full forward - can't kick straight

As a CHB type he is decent back up.

His best shot at making it is as a back up ruck, so thats where I think we play him.

He obviously had most of this season ruined by injury, but his start of season form was rubbish and soft.

My mail from the club is - "he takes a lot of work" - direct quote from towards the top.

He is competing with Spencer, Newton, Fitzpatrick for a game each week, based on that alone he must be some chance.

He played about half a season of competent footy at CHB in 08, was even keeping Frawley out of the team.

But:

Can't play fullback - doesn't read the game well enough

Can't play full forward - can't kick straight

As a CHB type he is decent back up.

His best shot at making it is as a back up ruck, so thats where I think we play him.

He obviously had most of this season ruined by injury, but his start of season form was rubbish and soft.

My mail from the club is - "he takes a lot of work" - direct quote from towards the top.

He is competing with Spencer, Newton, Fitzpatrick for a game each week, based on that alone he must be some chance.

sums it up.

I must've missed any game that he got within a bulls roar of appearing competent .

Went well in the GF sprint though .

That's his position!

Write a bloke like Stef Martin off at your own peril...

Stef played 1 or 2 decent games as a back flanker, Where are you pulling this second ruck stuff from ??? Roost it the guy is a basketballer and BTW Newton believe it or not has shown WAY MORE !! Desperate to start to a thread much ??

Shouldn't you be studying for exams?

Write a bloke like Stef Martin off at your own peril...

I agree! He is worth perservering with.

The games I rememebr he played half back / wing and was damaging with his run and carry and he knows how to use his body

He is very raw and needs to get confidence with game time!

IMO he could be anything "maybe a star". Now we have cleared the decks it really is betwween Spencer Newted Fitspatrick and Martin. He is clearly the best athlete and does have ball skills so I'm hoping the FD gives him some game time this year.

I agree! He is worth perservering with.

The games I rememebr he played half back / wing and was damaging with his run and carry and he knows how to use his body

He is very raw and needs to get confidence with game time!

IMO he could be anything "maybe a star". Now we have cleared the decks it really is betwween Spencer Newted Fitspatrick and Martin. He is clearly the best athlete and does have ball skills so I'm hoping the FD gives him some game time this year.

I agree with you in the main

However I saw him a couple of times at Casey and he just did not seem interested.

Before he gets a go a senior level I would want to see some geninue endeavour at casey in the first 5-6 games.

For mine 2011 is it for Steff, show some endeavour or it is over.

I must've missed any game that he got within a bulls roar of appearing competent .

Went well in the GF sprint though .

Round 5 vs Brisbane. I thought he was quite good that night.

His future is as a ruck/forward. That is clear. If he can't crack it in that role he won't make it at all. But he hasn't failed yet.

He is a gifted athlete, and has some great natural talent. Does he really want to play AFL footy?

what is that question based on?

what is that question based on?

Agree, reasonably bold to doubt someone's desire given the limited period of time SM has been fit. Do you have a basis for that?