One key difference re Green v Stevie J... Stevie J plays for the "greatest team of all".

surely that makes greens achievements greater, as he did them in an improving team, without a midfield like geelongs?

3 out of 4, FANTASTIC - bad luck greeny

Only 2 from 6 interstate sides (no SA, no NSW, no QLD)

No Bummers - sob,sob Np Roo's

Only 2 for Aints - won't be happy

Ablett and Chapmans selection in those position seems at odds with where they played this year...

I'd say the same for Jamar, Pendlebury, Johnson and Judd... Sorry!

B: Frawley Lake Enright

HB: Goddard Taylor O'Brien

C: Montagna Hodge© Selwood

HF: Didak Franklin Chapman

F: Hall Riewoldt LeCras

R: Sandilands Swan Ablett(vc)

INT: Jamar Johnson Judd Pendlebury

No Green?

Oh my gaaaawd.

The only excuse for that is that you can't give 3 spots to a team that only just got out of the bottom 4. Other than that, it's shameful.

Good effort for a team that finished 12th!

Well done to all 3 boys in making the squad.

Chip and the Russian what a well deserved reward for fantastic seasons.

Thought Greeny was unlucky, but still got the B&F.

AND

JURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOTY 2010. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW

surely that makes greens achievements greater, as he did them in an improving team, without a midfield like geelongs?

Unfortunately that's not how it seems to work.

Prime example of Mooney in 2008...

Stevie J had claims as good as Green.

I am still disappointed he missed but its great for Russian and Chip.

Give Green the captaincy!

quite right deezman.

the biggest omission from the team IMHO is Pav. the guy is seriously stiff - id have him in there over 1/2 of that team

Geel 6

Coll 4

MFC 2 =Third

WB 2

Haw 2

StK 2

WC 1

Freo 1

Rich 1

Carl 1

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Bris 0

Swans 0

Port 0

Crows 0

NM 0

Ess 0

Stevie J had claims as good as Green.

I am still disappointed he missed but its great for Russian and Chip.

Give Green the captaincy!

I agree with your sentiments.

Give it 3 years and we will have 5 players in the all Australian, Frawley, Watts, Scully, Trengove, Jurrah

Guys, we finished the season on 8.5 wins and still managed to get 2 players into the team. That's a pretty great effort.

So so happy for both Chip and Jamar. For Jamar because he has worked incredibly hard for 9 years to get that level of improvement out of himself, and Chip because he is a star and it's great that he is getting AFL-wide recognition for his efforts.

And congrats to LJ too. Doubt this will be his last MOTY/GOTY award (or Chip's only AA selection mind you).

Onwards and upwards in 2011!

IMHO Green is a victim of our ladder position. If Green was in, that would be 3 Dees, clear 3rd most players in AA for a 12th ladder side and 1 behind the top team on the ladder. I also believed Frawley and Jamar deserved it more than Green so i'm happy they were the 2/3 chosen. Still, stiff for Greeny

Congratulations to Chipper & Mark Jamar. Bad luck Greeny.

Congratulations also to Liam Jurrah.

Well done all four boys.

Give it 3 years and we will have 5 players in the all Australian, Frawley, Watts, Scully, Trengove, Jurrah

What about Jack Grimes?

What gets me about the Green thing is he was our best player this year. Frawley was amazing, and Jamar was easily the second-best ruckman this year...

But Green was our B&F, and it was well deserved. As Jaded said, it's hard to get a forward-line spot. You can't ignore a simple stat... Goals kicked. It would have been a gutsy decision to pick him based on his other stats.

And while Johnson may have been deserving, Didak certainly wasn't. And I'll eat my hat if either had better ears than Green did. In a worse side to boot.

What gets me about the Green thing is he was our best player this year. Frawley was amazing, and Jamar was easily the second-best ruckman this year...

But Green was our B&F, and it was well deserved. As Jaded said, it's hard to get a forward-line spot. You can't ignore a simple stat... Goals kicked. It would have been a gutsy decision to pick him based on his other stats.

And while Johnson may have been deserving, Didak certainly wasn't. And I'll eat my hat if either had better ears than Green did. In a worse side to boot.

The AA selectors were clearly seduced by 1 sensational 12 goal performance by Le Cras(albeit against an insipid Essendon backline). That game aside, Green had LeCras covered hands down IMO.

well at least the selectors named forwards as forwards and not mids. green allways be a gun to me

Green not to get in was a joke! Could have taken at least 2 players spots.

JOKE!

Next year Greeny!

One out of Stevie J, Le Cras and Green had to miss out.... Unlucky but great to see that the other two guys got a gig.

Jurrah MOTY is just the first of many!

Green very stiff. I can't believe the Pav and Hayes didn't make it. Hall in the pocket is a joke.

The AA selectors were clearly seduced by 1 sensational 12 goal performance by Le Cras(albeit against an insipid Essendon backline). That game aside, Green had LeCras covered hands down IMO.

Yeah, we can say all we like that he got beaten by one game... but it was a game that Green didn't have. Green's best all year was 5 goals. LeCras more than doubled that... and while we can say it shouldn't come down to that one game, you do still have to give LeCras his dues. Put it this way... if it was Green with the 12 goal game, you'd be pretty damn disappointed if he didn't get named. I reckon he was mostly just unlucky that he wasn't played in the forward-line for as many minutes as LeCras. Personally I reckon the selectors get very carried away with players who top the Coleman race in crap sides... what they ignore is the fact that guys like LeCras and Riewoldt, and Fevola before them, kick as many goals as they do partly because they have no-one interfering with their space in the forward line. They still have to get the job done, and kick the goals... and I don't mean to suggest they're not deserving... but still, I think people should recognise sometimes that kicking 80 goals from 200 deliveries (40%) in a wooden spoon side is easier than kicking 40 from 80 (50%).

We're going to see a lot of this in the coming years when Watts, Jurrah and Dunn/Bate all kick 40, and we have an awesome forward line... but none get near an AA gurnsey.

Like the Rising Star, this whole award thing is a little bit of fluff I reckon... The namings are of more use to fans challenging each other than they are to the clubs or players. I love it and everything, but I realise the relative silliness of it all.

That said... we all remember how hard it was for JMac to get his gurnsey in 2006, and he didn't even make the side. So the fact we had a guy in the 18 (who deserved it) and a guy on the bench (who also more than deserved it) as well as a guy who would have been in the emergencies... That speaks volumes for our improvement. I love that one of them isn't even a "mature" player yet.

I'd be interested to see who everyone's emergencies are.

For mine: Green, Hayes and Pavlich easily ahead of the others.