Just an interesting spreadsheet I put together.

Apologies if any details are incorrect.

Schocked at how many 'wasted' drafts during the Daniher era....

thoughts???

Melbourne Draft History					
	 - Current List			 - Others Drafted that year	
1997					
	James McDonald	Rookie Draft		Travis Johnstone	Pick 1
				                Troy Longmuire	Pick 22
				                Matthew Blake	Pick 39
				                Luke Ottens	Pick 50
				                Nathan Brown	Pick 66
				                Guy Rigoni	Pick 77
				                Jamie Shanahan	Pre-Season Pick 1
1999					
	Brad Green	Pick 19		        Paul Wheatley	Pick 20
	Cameron Bruce	Pick 64		        Michal J Clarke	Pick 42
				                Mathew Whelan	Pick 50
				                Shannon O'Brien	Pick 63
				                James Cook	Pre-Season Pick 3
				                Steven Pitt	Pre-Season Pick 1
2001					
	Brad Miller	Pick 55		        Luke Molan	Pick 9
				                Aaron Rogers	Pick 26
				                Stephen Armstrong	Pick 25
2002					
	Daniel Bell	Pick 14		        Nicholas Smith	Pick 15
	Jared Rivers	Pick 26		        Gary Moorcroft	Pick 39
	Mark Jamar	Rookie Draft		Cameron Hunter	Pick 54
				                Ryan Ferguson	Pick 66
				                Stpehen Powell	Pre-Season Pick 1
2003					
	Colin Sylvia	Pick 3		        Brock McLean	Pick 5
	Aaron Davey	Rookie Draft		Chris Johnson	Pick 36
				                Phil Read	Pre-Season Pick 3
				                Ben Holland	Trade for Pick 21
2004					
	Maththew Bate	Pick 13			
	Lynden Dunn	Pick 15			
	Paul Johnson	Pick 36			
	Michael Newton	Pick 43			

	Brent Moloney	Pre-Draft Trade			
2005					
	Nathan Jones	Pick 12		        Byron Picket	Trade for Pick 28, 44, 60
	Clint Bartram	Pick 60		        Simon Buckley 	Pick 53
				                Heath Neville 	Pick 68
2006					
	James Frawley	Pick 12		        Isaac Weetra	Pick 60
	Ricky Petterd	Pick 30			
	Colin Garland	Pick 46			
	Matthew Warnock	Rookie 2006			
2007					  
	Cale Morton	Pick 4		        Trent Zomer	Rookie Draft 3
	Jack Grimes	Pick 14		        Shane Valenti	Rooki Draft 49
	Addam Maric	Pick 21			
	Kyle Cheney	Pick 53			
	Tom Mcnamara	Pick 66			
	Austin Wonaeamirri	Rookie Draft			
	Danny Hughes	Rookie Draft			
	John Meesen	Pre-Draft Trade			
2008					
	Jack Watts	Pick 1			
	Sam Blease	Pick 17			
	James Strauss	Pick 19			
	Jamie Bennell	Pick 35			
	Neville Jetta	Pick 51			
	Rohan Bail	Pick 64			
	Setafan Martin	Pre-Season Draft (3)			
	Rhys Healey	Rookie Draft			
	Jordie McKenzie	Rookie Draft			
	Jake Spencer	Rookie Draft			
	Liam Jurrah	Pre-Season Draft (1)			
2009					
	Tom Scully	Pick 1			
	Jack Trengove	Pick 2			
	Jordan Gysberts	Pick 11			
	Luke Tapscott	Pick 18			
	Max Gawn	Pick 34			
	Jack Fitzpatrick	Pick 50			

	Joel Macdonald	Pre-Season Draft (1)			

would still love to see valenti in the side but wouldnt get a game

would still love to see valenti in the side but wouldnt get a game

Still remember his game against freo last year!! pity there were'nt more of those games!!

in the 1997 draft who the hell is matthew blake!??

How did we manage to trade 3 draft picks for Pickett? Is that right? because it looks like we used pick 60 twice!

Edited May 31, 201015 yr by DemonWorshipper

How did we manage to trade 3 draft picks for Pickett? Is that right? because it looks like we used pick 60 twice!

Player Name Original Club New Club Traded For

Byron Pickett and picks #54 & #62... Port Adelaide ...Melbourne... Draft Picks #28, #44 & #60

this is according to wikipedia...not to sure how this trade worked though...

Player Name Original Club New Club Traded For

Byron Pickett and picks #54 & #62... Port Adelaide ...Melbourne... Draft Picks #28, #44 & #60

this is according to wikipedia...not to sure how this trade worked though...

I think that was pretty much it. So it was a Pickett for pick 28, plus we lost out on a few downgrades (44 goes to - 54, 60 goes to - 62).

In hindsight we should never have made that trade, but at the time it was a reasonable trade. A late second rounder for a quality player. Pickett added a bit to the side that we thought was getting reasonably close to a flag. But we found out we weren't and Byron enjoyed eating up his healthy pay cheque.

I think that was pretty much it. So it was a Pickett for pick 28, plus we lost out on a few downgrades (44 goes to - 54, 60 goes to - 62).

In hindsight we should never have made that trade, but at the time it was a reasonable trade.

The trade was fine. His first year with us he was one of the recruits of the year. It was when the wheels fell off that he disappeared. We didn't get years from him, but there have been worse trades.

As for the thread. Every club has wasted draft years. We payed for a lot of success too. Remember how we were having on and off years? On our off years we rarely got close to the bottom of the ladder. In the one year we did, we got Sylvia and McLean, both of whom are doing a fair bit of good work (McLean has runs on the board) and have justified their selections in relation to their draft year.

Melbourne's draft history is far from poor. It's probably about the same as most clubs who have their horror selections. At least many of ours were due to injury, not incompetence in the recruiting department.

A late second rounder for a quality player. Pickett added a bit to the side that we thought was getting reasonably close to a flag. But we found out we weren't and Byron enjoyed eating up his healthy pay cheque.

Hardly quality. A washed up overweight cameo player whose star faded quickly. Add little to MFC and took alot including his pay cheque. Should have been sacked for not turning up to a game after drinking the previous night. An embarrassment that would not be tolerated by the current football management. A bad trade.

Unless we re-drafted him, Stephen Powell came to us before 2002. I distinctly remember him playing in the 2000 Pre-lim and then kicking our first goal in the GF the following week. Unless i have read it wrong.

Unless we re-drafted him, Stephen Powell came to us before 2002. I distinctly remember him playing in the 2000 Pre-lim and then kicking our first goal in the GF the following week. Unless i have read it wrong.

yeah thats correct...we initially traded him in 1999 for pick 35 as a straight swop...and actually traded him to st.kilda in 2002 pre-season draft

cheers!

Drafting wasn't an exacting science back in the nineties & early 2000's.

These days the depth of quality players is greater in the TAC cup & the research is much better.

Drafting wasn't an exacting science back in the nineties & early 2000's.

These days the depth of quality players is greater in the TAC cup & the research is much better.

The research is certainly better but the depth of quality in the TAC varies from year to year.

Outside a couple of obvious choices, 2003 and 2004 have been ordinary draft years indeed.

And if its reasonable to give a 5 year judging period then the jury is reasonably out on 2007 and beyond.

While talking about Byron Pickett, he has turned up in the WA Goldfields recently cleared from AFL Queensland (McKay) to the Kalgoorlie City Football Club in the Goldfields Football League.

Is yet to play but think his local debut will be this weekend coming, haven't spotted him in person, but the general talk is he's been in a pretty good paddock.

Had the local comp here talking since his clearance was granted, how he goes on the field time will tell.

Cheers Ian Dunstan Kalgoorlie WA.

yeah thats correct...we initially traded him in 1999 for pick 35 as a straight swop...and actually traded him to st.kilda in 2002 pre-season draft

cheers!

Now Stephen Powell was a Great Trade. Let us celebrate the Good ones. I enjoyed having Pickett in the middle for 1 year.

Opposition players were genuinely scared to go near him. It was good to see Grunt in a MFC jumper...Yes it didn't last i know, but i enjoyed 2006.

What is a shame is that we did not start the Clean out after the 2006 season. We all thought we were close to a Flag. Oh so wrong.

yeah thats correct...we initially traded him in 1999 for pick 35 as a straight swop...and actually traded him to st.kilda in 2002 pre-season draft

cheers!

We didn't trade him to St Kilda. We offered him a 2 year deal (because of his OP injury in 2001), and St Kilda offered him a 3 year deal. We got nothing for him, and he was a key part of our engine room.

This was a disaster for us - as was the Woewodin debacle, and resulted in an appalling 2003 in circumstances where we were a couple of kicks off a preliminary final in 2002.

Both players finished in the top 3 in their respective clubs B&F counts at least once over the next couple of years.

in the 1997 draft who the hell is matthew blake!??

not even in the Demons book , but heRE is something worrying

he was 39

pick 43 was Adam Goodes! 45 Matty Scarlett

From Demonwiki

From: Bendigo Pioneers, Selection 39, 1997 National Draft

Described upon his drafting as "Midfielder who was something of a ball-magnet in the VSFL this year. Covers a lot of ground. Endurance a strong asset."

Played 18 games with the reserves in 1998 but failed to play a senior game and was delisted.

Edited May 31, 201015 yr by WonnaJurah

not even in the Demons book , but heRE is something worrying

he was 39

pick 43 was Adam Goodes! 45 Matty Scarlett

Scarlett was a father son and out of our reach as he had committed to Cats. Goodes was a 17 year old and we had already taken one at pick one and were not eligible to take another.

Drafting will never be an exact science, but it is always fun to speculate what could have been a few years down the track. With what we have seen so far, would you still draft Morton ahead of Dangerfield or Cyril Rioli??

Definitely.

All three are good players but Morton will be a gem and difficult to match up on height wise and engine.

Drafting will never be an exact science, but it is always fun to speculate what could have been a few years down the track. With what we have seen so far, would you still draft Morton ahead of Dangerfield or Cyril Rioli??

At this stage very happy with Morton in comparision to Dangerfield who is just a half forward at the moment.....Cyril, well he is just one out of the box.....I'll never admit to enjoying players at other teams but he is one. The draft is always full of this "what if we took this bloke' stories.

Overall our draft history back to 97 is not too bad.

Edited May 31, 201015 yr by Demon Jack 16

We didn't trade him to St Kilda. We offered him a 2 year deal (because of his OP injury in 2001), and St Kilda offered him a 3 year deal. We got nothing for him, and he was a key part of our engine room.

This was a disaster for us - as was the Woewodin debacle, and resulted in an appalling 2003 in circumstances where we were a couple of kicks off a preliminary final in 2002.

Both players finished in the top 3 in their respective clubs B&F counts at least once over the next couple of years.

Your correct on the trade terms with St Kilda but.....

Powell had a great 2000. Got OP in 2001 and was recovering and a shadow of himself in 2002. We were a couple of kicks off the PF in 2002 on the outstanding efforts of Yze and TJ. Powell and Woey were bit players in the that year. After one good year surrounded by stellar midfielders like Harvey and he dropped off the pace literally in 2004 and 2005. Certainly not worth the 3 years. I understand his OP condition continues to hamper his post AFL physical activities significantly.

Enough has been said about the Woey situation. A good ordinary player who got the most out of himself and won the B'low in 2000 as part of unsung blue collar midfield that year that included Powell, Leoncelli, Rigoni and the McDonald brothers. Got found out in top company and MFC did well to get a first round pick for a player whose playing time was fading.

Overall our draft history back to 97 is not too bad.

In many ways its been down right appalling aided by Salary Cap penalties in the early years.

In many ways its been down right appalling aided by Salary Cap penalties in the early years.

Have a look at all clubs through this period.......

Have a look at all clubs through this period.......

Why do you think our drafting has not been so bad?

In 1997, our No 1 draft pick proved to be a lazy, talented footballer with a poor attitude and no leadership skills

The AFL burnt us in 1999 and 2000. We completely stuffed 2001 and we blew first round picks in 2002 on Nick Smith and Daniel Bell.

We had picks 3 and 5 in probably the worst draft ever...2003. We were lucky to trade pick 5 for pick 11 last year.

In 2004, we used a first round pick on a good VFL player in Dunn. We traded/wasted the second pick for 200cm rover in PJ who is also a very handy VFL player. And we got Newton with the next pick. We used two other first rounders on Beamer and Bate who have been fair at best over the journey.

In 2005, we took N Jones with our first pick and he is honest without being a star in his 5th year. We traded away picks for Pickett....enough said. We took Buckley with pick 53 and Bartram who is fair at pick 60.

There really is nothing to write home about our drafting even relative to other sides.