Put Davey back inside 50

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Aaron Davey has to return to 2006 and become FP again. There were times where his presence up forward changed the momentum of matches from spectacular plays and making something out of nothing. well now we have nothing and we need to make something. He is instructed to never stray far from 50 and to be at the point where spillages occur at all times possible. We know his defensive pressure is excellent and thus will also help reduce the ease with which we are being counter-attacked. I know he is now seen as HBF/Winger but the fact is we are hurting up forward the most and we need a spark. Furthermore I want to see Maric or Trengove in there playing a similar role - for this to work other options need to be pursued in big guys that they can rove off, i'm thinking 2 or 3 of Jamar, Martin, Newton, Rivers and Garland to join Miller and give us something to kick to. Four big guys in there and two crumbers.

[H_T 3,049]

Davey started in the forward line inside 50 on the weekend.

[Range Rover 1,935]

Davey started in the forward line inside 50 on the weekend.

In our best side I feel Davey is best suited to a half back flank.

Witness Harry O'Brien's dashing game yesterday setting up attack after attack for Collingwood.

Davey should be ripping up games like that.

[titan_uranus 25,174]

He started in the forward 50 but I don't think he really played as a forward. He was kind of drifting around a bit. Certainly didn't play FP.

[H_T 3,049]

In our best side I feel Davey is best suited to a half back flank.

Witness Harry O'Brien's dashing game yesterday setting up attack after attack for Collingwood.

Davey should be ripping up games like that.

Isn't O'Brien a helluva find for C'wood ! They've found a player there IMO.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

He started in the forward 50 but I don't think he really played as a forward. He was kind of drifting around a bit. Certainly didn't play FP.

correct, he definitely didn't play the role I described, which was evident by the fact that just about every single time we went forward and the ball went to ground (which was nearly every time) there were never any smalls around and it came straight back out. Little guys inside 50 are supposed to sit front and center of the contest and try to create a sneaky goal. It happens in every side in the country, why aren't we doing it?

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

In our best side I feel Davey is best suited to a half back flank.

That might be true but the facts are that a)his services are more urgently needed right now as a forward and b)he is doing stuff all in his HBF role at the moment anyway

[45HG 1,559]

I'd love to see Davey play roaming around the forwardline - unfortunately it seems that he'd be wasted there as it seems impossible to get the ball up there with any regularity.

[Inner Demon 1]

Given during the majority of our game there's nobody at all playing in the forward 50 I'd say Aaron not being down there isn't the biggest of our problems.

Just back on the original post, why in God's name would you want Trengove playing deep forward pocket????? He needs as much time in the middle as possible.

[tess 19]

Isn't O'Brien a helluva find for C'wood ! They've found a player there IMO.

They've found a player?

He's played 72 games already, didnt you notice him?

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Given during the majority of our game there's nobody at all playing in the forward 50 I'd say Aaron not being down there isn't the biggest of our problems.

Just back on the original post, why in God's name would you want Trengove playing deep forward pocket????? He needs as much time in the middle as possible.

what? given there is nobody there the suggestion to put someone there is a bad one. right. leave it empty then it is working a treat.

why in God's name? how about having somebody with a bit of brains and polish to be around the loose ball to try and get a GOAL

if you haven't noticed, not many players at other clubs start their careers on the ball regardless of where they were drafted, he doesn't 'need' to do anything in his 2nd game, we 'need' someone to play a small forward role. It's called an apprenticeship, and you will notice in most cases the good clubs do it to their young players. Given Maric has shown nothing and Ozzie and Jetta are injured we don't have many other choices besides the aforementioned Davey. Have I gone to another planet, because on Earth it is generally considered a good idea to have Key forwards with crummers at their feet if you want to kick a score

[Keyser Söze 0]

what? given there is nobody there the suggestion to put someone there is a bad one. right. leave it empty then it is working a treat.

why in God's name? how about having somebody with a bit of brains and polish to be around the loose ball to try and get a GOAL

if you haven't noticed, not many players at other clubs start their careers on the ball regardless of where they were drafted, he doesn't 'need' to do anything in his 2nd game, we 'need' someone to play a small forward role. It's called an apprenticeship, and you will notice in most cases the good clubs do it to their young players. Given Maric has shown nothing and Ozzie and Jetta are injured we don't have many other choices besides the aforementioned Davey. Have I gone to another planet, because on Earth it is generally considered a good idea to have Key forwards with crummers at their feet if you want to kick a score

Depends on whether you are trying to win one game now OR lose only 2 matches in a season, years from now.

[Inner Demon 1]

I think my point may have been missed.

I don't disagree at all that Flash spending some time in a FP role would be good, I was more getting at the first need is there to be a marking forward down there for him (or anybody) to crumb from.

In any event, a player like Aaron can be moved all over the ground on a given day. He should be spending time in FP, in the middle and across HB.

Still don't agree that our 6'1" midfielder who had a bucketload of contested possessions on the weekend would be best served playing a crumbing forward role.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Depends on whether you are trying to win one game now OR lose only 2 matches in a season, years from now.

yes because if Trengove plays in the forward pocket now he will lose the ability to ever play midfield again

I am on board with the 'long term view' philosophy, it may end being a pile of rubbish that Bailey has sold us, but I am on board with it. However, the importance of the side at least showing something, anything at this point cannot be understated. Given IMO our single biggest problem is the fact our forwardline is a complete shambles, i think it is perfectly reasonable to suggest this talented kid goes down there

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

I think my point may have been missed.

I don't disagree at all that Flash spending some time in a FP role would be good, I was more getting at the first need is there to be a marking forward down there for him (or anybody) to crumb from.

In any event, a player like Aaron can be moved all over the ground on a given day. He should be spending time in FP, in the middle and across HB.

Still don't agree that our 6'1" midfielder who had a bucketload of contested possessions on the weekend would be best served playing a crumbing forward role.

well then you missed MY point in the OP as i stated in no uncertain terms "for this to work other options need to be pursued in big guys that they can rove off, i'm thinking 2 or 3 of Jamar, Martin, Newton, Rivers and Garland to join Miller and give us something to kick to. Four big guys in there and two crumbers."

I mean, how can anyone be disagreeing with me, surely nobody could suggest the current setup, which appear to be Bate, Miller and etterd with no crumbers is a strategy that should be persisted with. If you have a better idea than what I have suggested then let's hear it

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

more attention for this please!

who agrees with me or has an alternative proposal?

everyone recognises the problem, but what would YOU DO about it as coach?

it's really doing my head in watching them come out every week with a 'it's broke, but let's not fix it' attitude