For any young demons out there, this was David Schwarz before he injured his knee. He was rather good...

He could have been a great of the game -- & we could have had a flag. Remember 1994 (happy to be corrected) when we had Lyon, DS, Charles, Jako ... my memory is failing me but we had a solid/star front six. Was M. Pike one of them? That was our time!

He could have been a great of the game -- & we could have had a flag. Remember 1994 (happy to be corrected) when we had Lyon, DS, Charles, Jako ... my memory is failing me but we had a solid/star front six. Was M. Pike one of them? That was our time!

M.Pike was there yes. '94 coached by neil Balme. Jaka was actually injured & Finished by Mid '94. (If he had made the finals Fit & Firing there's another story!)

I moved here too late to have seen Schwarz at his best.

That turn for the last goal in the clip is utterly astonishing.

Dad and I used to watch him crash over the tops of the packs back in the ressies, he re did his knee against Syd right in front me years later and the crowd fell sickly silent knowing what it meant for the big fella, we were in the lead before the knee went then fell in a heap and lost

He and Stinga, the two would have been greats. It must play one their minds all these years later wondering what could have been. Most folks just know the Ox in his media role and many more wouldn't even know who Stinga was

It's been a hard road as a Dees supporter and an even harder road for some of the players

I moved here too late to have seen Schwarz at his best.

That turn for the last goal in the clip is utterly astonishing.

Just brilliant...

I'm glad to see the same guy has also posted Jakovich's famous scissor goal. I've been waiting years to see that.

Thanks SaturdayFudge whoever you are...

Edited October 10, 200915 yr by wisedog

Dad and I used to watch him crash over the tops of the packs back in the ressies, he re did his knee against Syd right in front me years later and the crowd fell sickly silent knowing what it meant for the big fella, we were in the lead before the knee went then fell in a heap and lost

We actually won that game by 25pts.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1...1619950603.html

Edited October 10, 200915 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

I remember that Carlton game like it was yesterday. Such a good win.

We actually won that game by 25pts.

http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/1...1619950603.html

wow, i must have reinterpreted the horrible feelings for ox at the time as a loss years later

i was very young but that sickening feeling of seeing schwarta go down with his knee against sydney and then come back and walk along the mcc members on the boundary line in crutches will stay with me for a long long time.

i too remember that horrible moment. i remember being all of 10 and saying to dad, dad it could just be his ankle! dad knew and i did too though, i just didnt want it to be so.

as an aside, i want one of those 1994 long sleeve woollen jumpers!!!!!!!!!!!!

That sydney Game where ox did the knee was surreal-was like a funeral in some ways.

The score at days end was almost insignifigant to me. I was sitting near his mum in the Red seats that day.

She just went pale as....

Sure, it was an absolute tragedy that he went down in his prime, but he also became a very good CHF/FF for us. He could no longer fly, so he just bustled the other players out of the way.

A true MFC champ, who persevered and still became a very good player.

Sure, it was an absolute tragedy that he went down in his prime, but he also became a very good CHF/FF for us. He could no longer fly, so he just bustled the other players out of the way.

A true MFC champ, who persevered and still became a very good player.

Bloody oath. The Ox had Guts, but he was as good as carey before the knee buckled xx

Bloody oath. The Ox had Guts, but he was as good as carey before the knee buckled xx

He was promising but as good as Carey, arguably the best AFL centre half forward ever. Not in his league.

Had Ox stayed fit over his career, who knows.

He had one consistent year after 2 years of spasmodic cameos.

Hyped up to legendary status.

Terrible injuries but brave comeback. Won the 1999 Bluey playing a ground level bullocking KPF. Never the same and his body gave out 6 months before he retired.

Ox had the ability to be as good as Carey, but no one will ever know.

I still love the Ox, still have the actual number 5 that was sewn onto my old jumper, I kept it.

I always think if we could have kept them fit we could have won a flag.

Depresses me thinking about those days he did his knees.

He WAS the equal of Carey until he did his knee.

The G was like a morgue in the 2nd half against the swans.

I cried in 95 too, cried tears of joy that September :D

I cried in 95 too, cried tears of joy that September :D

Go away.

He WAS the equal of Carey until he did his knee.

MFC supporter hyperbole to deal with the pain of an exciting career that was unfulfilled

The G was like a morgue in the 2nd half against the swans.

Agree. An awful let down after the build up.

I cried in 95 too, cried tears of joy that September :D

Cheats.

I cried in 95 too, cried tears of joy that September :D

You will cry next year when your team is [censored] cos they just lost there MVP in a fire sale because they cant manage there players, carlton are a joke so [censored] off back to talkingshit i mean talking carlton like the rest of your fagot friends

I cried in 95 too, cried tears of joy that September :D

With Fevola gone, that's 89-99 goals a year going with him, whose going to pick up the slack and win games for you up forward? Eddie Betts? Cameron Cloke? Setanta? Good luck with that!

Nobody will know how good Ox would have been

All we as football supporters can do is remember what he could do and imagine the rest

No doubt each of us will have a different interpretation on the result

I'm 24 and have been a Melbourne supporter my whole life. Schwarta in 94 was the best player I've ever seen in a Melbourne jumper and, were it not for the injuries, would've become the only true champion of the league I've ever seen play for Melbourne.