Hearing reports on land and ology that both are in for shoulder reconstructions?

anyone know the full story there ?

Yes, they have both had shoulder reconstructions this week and will be right to start pre-season after Christmas

A real shame, but this is a good time to start sending players off to get fixed.

This is devastating

shoulder injuries are one the worst injurys a player can get , been through it myself even with full rehab the shoulder is never the same again and re occurance in highly likely ,guess the positive is they are not KPP marking players

I wish them all the best and hope they come back as good as ever , we can't take a trick with our injuries Wona, Buckley, Garland, Blease now these 2 all with serious injuries

Blease - Broken leg

Strauss - Shoulder reco

Maric - Shoulder reco

Garland - Season ending foot injury

That's bad news, all of these injuries could threaten their careers, terrible luck for our kids.

That's bad news, all of these injuries could threaten their careers, terrible luck for our kids.

Let's not get carried away.

Both Blease and Garland will start running soon and are on track for a full recovery.

Maric and Strauss were pushed into surgery early to fix up the shoulder and get them right for next year. Maric played on with a sore shoulder, as did Strauss (he didn't even look injured, so maybe he did it at training?), so clearly the injury wasn't career threatening.

Our [censored] luck with injuries continues, but let's not slit our wrists just yet.

The only injury that could be career ending is Garland's, but we discovered it early and have taken every precaution, so he should be right to go next year.

If ever there is a time to get injured, this year is it.

there's a massive difference between a shoulder reco and just a cleanup I would've thought...

lets not get too carried away until we hear something official from the club...

Maric had a lot of shoulder problems as a kid, he had a shoulder reco when he was 18 playing with vic metro, if he has had another reco it could be career threatening.

I think that Strauss did his shoulder early in preseason as well. Maric had little preseason this year, get it done now and he should be right to do most training by October. Wait until September to do this he wouldn't even be running when preseason starts.

Take it from me, as an expert on shoulder injuries..

They very rarely operate on shoulders that dislocate once or twice because even after 2 times there is still only a 20% chance it will come out again.

The third time this figure goes up to about 35-40% and that is the best time to operate. An operation should take the percentage of re-injury to 5%.

I'm currently through to week 7 of a 6 month recovery period, so ask me any questions re: shoulders if you have any questions

Take it from me, as an expert on shoulder injuries..

They very rarely operate on shoulders that dislocate once or twice because even after 2 times there is still only a 20% chance it will come out again.

The third time this figure goes up to about 35-40% and that is the best time to operate. An operation should take the percentage of re-injury to 5%.

I'm currently through to week 7 of a 6 month recovery period, so ask me any questions re: shoulders if you have any questions

Is a should reco always a bad thing, or can itbe down graded or is there a minor version just to fix things up a bit.

I hate the sounds of Reco!!

Spoke to Adds on sat. Having a shoulder reco which he injured playing 4 casey last week. Yes it is his second reco but the good news is that it is to the opposite shoulder to that he reco'd as an 18yr old. Should be ready for pre-season which is good news.

Spoke to Adds on sat. Having a shoulder reco which he injured playing 4 casey last week. Yes it is his second reco but the good news is that it is to the opposite shoulder to that he reco'd as an 18yr old. Should be ready for pre-season which is good news.

I take it you mean Maric?

Anyone know about Strauss?

I'm currently through to week 7 of a 6 month recovery period, so ask me any questions re: shoulders if you have any questions

Why do human beings have two shoulders?

Why do human beings have two shoulders?

To stop the head from rolling off??

Let's face it, we'd look ridiculous with just one. Or three.

Take it from me, as an expert on shoulder injuries..

They very rarely operate on shoulders that dislocate once or twice because even after 2 times there is still only a 20% chance it will come out again.

The third time this figure goes up to about 35-40% and that is the best time to operate. An operation should take the percentage of re-injury to 5%.

I'm currently through to week 7 of a 6 month recovery period, so ask me any questions re: shoulders if you have any questions

H.B.K., I assume you mean that if the shoulder is allowed to dislocate a 4th or 5th time or more, the op is less successful. So maybe this is what's been done with Maric & Strauss, who are certainly both part of the club's future plans. They've had a few dislocations, so the club's not messing around but has stepped in decisively and got it done relatively early. Would this be right?

I'd imagine the good Lord didn't design shoulders to be hit against other shoulders with serious force from all angles, or for them to be rammed into the ground when arms are pinned.

H.B.K., I assume yours (and probably Maric's & Strauss's) were anterior dislocations?

Very disapointing that our pick 17 (Blease) and pick 19 (strauss) have both had season ending surgeries in their first year.

Hope Blease, Strauss and Maric will be ready for day 1 of pre-season as they're a big part of our future!

Wow. Didn't see this coming. Would have liked to see some more footy from both.

Our starting 22 next year is going to look nothing like our starting 22 now. Even moreso the 22 st the start of 2011 is going to look like a different club's!

Yes it is disappointing with Maric and Strauss both out and Bleese too....but 3 of our later draft picks this year have shown plenty.

Bennell - so silky with the ball

Jetta - plays his role and does the team things. Doesn't look out of place in the 1's.

Jurrah - Don't need to say anything

Maybe with Maric, Strauss & Bleese out it may give Bail a chance to debut. If strauss and Bleese turn out to be players....which is more likely than the other boys (when they were drafted) then last years draft would have to be one of our more successful in recent times.

You can also add Watts to that list.

Potentally 6, 10 year plus players out of 1 draft.

Is a should reco always a bad thing, or can itbe down graded or is there a minor version just to fix things up a bit.

I hate the sounds of Reco!!

Nah a reco is a reco, there is no minor versions But there should also be no overlying problem in the future. Maric sounds like he suffers from hypermobile shoulders, which basically means they are a bit weaker than a normal persons. But an operation should fix this up..

H.B.K., I assume you mean that if the shoulder is allowed to dislocate a 4th or 5th time or more, the op is less successful. So maybe this is what's been done with Maric & Strauss, who are certainly both part of the club's future plans. They've had a few dislocations, so the club's not messing around but has stepped in decisively and got it done relatively early. Would this be right?

I'd imagine the good Lord didn't design shoulders to be hit against other shoulders with serious force from all angles, or for them to be rammed into the ground when arms are pinned.

H.B.K., I assume yours (and probably Maric's & Strauss's) were anterior dislocations?

The operation is still successful, but once you get to that stage, there are more chances for complications.. I would imagine that the club would be on top of it early and would've got it fixed earlier. As opposed to Jason Porplyzia last year who dislocated probably 9 times...

Just got back from training. Spoke with Adam M who said that he will be operated on next week. Hurt the shoulder a couple of weeks ago playing for Casey. Didn't seem too concerned and can't wait to start playing again. Strauss was operated on this week.

Dee Strauss out for the season

Guns, both of them.

Did anyone see the table in today's Age showing the number of games missed for each time by players in the top 10 of their B&F last year? This is a good way of comparing the extent of each club's injuries to key players.

Despite much howling by some clubs (Hawthorn, Collingwood, Adelaide etc etc etc) about injuries to key players, they're well down the list. On top with 36 games lost each are Essendon and, yes, Melbourne.

Just got back from training. Spoke with Adam M who said that he will be operated on next week. Hurt the shoulder a couple of weeks ago playing for Casey. Didn't seem too concerned and can't wait to start playing again. Strauss was operated on this week.

So am I to understand he WILL play again this season??

Does anybody know how garlands rehab is going? will he be ready for pre-season or do we have a luke egan on our hands?

Does anybody know how garlands rehab is going? will he be ready for pre-season or do we have a luke egan on our hands?

Walked past Garlo at the U18 Championships last week. Didn't get a chance to speak to him, so i can't really comment on how his rehab is going, but i did notice that he's still wearing a moon-boot on his injured foot.

I'm not really in the know regarding rehabilitation for stress fractures, would anyone who might be better informed have any idea when that moon-boot would be/is due to come off? Considering he had surgery on it after round 1, some 13 or so weeks ago, am i right in assuming it would be soon?