first of all seriously no biest but umpires WTF?

cheney tackle on monfries? plus moloney tackle on prismall in first quarter how can they possibly be given high also moloney holding the balll second qrt 7 min?! just a few of many!

its time for jeff giechen to step down the umpiring has been horrible all season!

jack watts ... looks not so great i know his young but every melbourne supporter knows this! do we think he will be great or hope he will be great?

we have been at the bottom for 2 years... almost 3 when are we going to improve ? im sick of losing i dont care wat draft picks we get!

what do we have to look forward to? when willl we start winning?

agree with every point you make. spot on!

Just watched the Bailey press conference on line. He looks like a man who's out of ideas. These last 2 games have clearly effected Bailey and his demeanour is really starting to resemble what you'd expect from a coach with a 4-30 record overall.

He got a bit upset with one journo who asked him whether or not he singled out the leadership group for last nights debacle. Bailey replied "all players share the responsibility".

He thought our tackling was more or less half assed. He was also very upset we gave away the early free kick goals.

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Has our list gotten to the point where it's uncoachable and unwinnable?

jack watts ... looks not so great i know his young but every melbourne supporter knows this! do we think he will be great or hope he will be great?

Last November I was thinking that Rich was the safe bet, as you can't beat a class midfielder. Watts and Naita came with a risk I thought. At the moment Rich looks the pick of the draft and good luck to Brisbane.

Very early days though, and I haven't seen Watts's game last night.

Morton seems more of a concern at the moment.

Have faith BBP.

Watts and Morton are 2 of the skinniest kids running around at an AFL club ATM.

Get them on the steak and shake diet and they will come good-----Very good!

I can not believe this website. I have lost a lot of respect for this forum. Has anyone been reading what the Connolly and co have been saying we are still a long way off. Everyone needs to chill.

YEAH i know you cant touch JW on this site but gee I dont know?? Yeah he was a lot better 2night and im really optimistic that he will be a great player but Natanui... he was ok wasnt he... and hell pull a big crowd....mmmmmm drafting is definately an art isnt it...

YEAH i know you cant touch JW on this site

You also can't touch the senior coach either.

We're 4-30 since rd 1 2008 and they'll tell you that things are going rosy under Bailey.

The club is all talk at the moment. I think the MFC website should ban player interviews during the week outlining how they're going to make amends and are sick of honourable losses - it's all fluff.

You're right. Lets all panic.

I've been noticing a new phenomenon from generation Y and it's prevalent in the OP. And it's not that they think they're "versing" everyone, it's their incorrect use of the word "his". Often they really mean "he's" as in "he is", but they type "his". Staggering really.

But I digress. Watts will be a gem of a footballer. If you can't see it now that's ok, but the player you witness today you won't recognise in 3-5 years time.

I'm more concerned by our skill level and woeful midfield. More than ever I think we need 2 mids with whatever top 4 picks we receive at year's end. I've got no problem with Butcher if 'he's' (or should I say "his" so that some understand me) a clear standout, as top quality kpps are as rare as hen's teeth, but if there's any doubt I'd go with a mid to compliment Scully. I think we have the worst midfield I've ever seen.

You're right. Lets all panic.

It amazes me that so many can't see the forest for the trees.

If we just look at the Hawks and Blues of a few years ago who everybody would thrash and look at them today. It obviously takes time at the bottom with several draft picks to rebuild. We are doing that and will rise again with a strong list.

How in hell can you expect a young Watts etc to make the difference in his first year as a skinny kid.

I know this is probably wasted on those who just want to win a couple of games now and bugger the future, but be patient the Demons will rise again and hopefully stay up there for a long time.

I've been noticing a new phenomenon from generation Y and it's prevalent in the OP. And it's not that they think they're "versing" everyone, it's their incorrect use of the word "his". Often they really mean "he's" as in "he is", but they type "his". Staggering really.

But I digress. Watts will be a gem of a footballer. If you can't see it now that's ok, but the player you witness today you won't recognise in 3-5 years time.

I'm more concerned by our skill level and woeful midfield. More than ever I think we need 2 mids with whatever top 4 picks we receive at year's end. I've got no problem with Butcher if 'he's' (or should I say "his" so that some understand me) a clear standout, as top quality kpps are as rare as hen's teeth, but if there's any doubt I'd go with a mid to compliment Scully. I think we have the worst midfield I've ever seen.

I think you mean complement!

........................... if 'he's' (or should I say "his" so that some understand me) ...............

Love it

H, watching tonight's game led me to the same point. We don't need another KPF. Bater will be fine as 2nd or 3rd tall. BUT if we cannot get the ball through the midfield we are dead. And just getting one is not enough. I found Morton unconvincing last night. Being reliant on Davey for any zip or line-breaking is an ineffective strategy but it is the only one we have. Blease better be good, and he well might be. BUT in case he is not, then we'd get two this year. I went last night with ehe hope of a cheeky win - now I'm (feeling sick again) just looking for player development and for weekly losses.

I've been noticing a new phenomenon from generation Y and it's prevalent in the OP. And it's not that they think they're "versing" everyone, it's their incorrect use of the word "his". Often they really mean "he's" as in "he is", but they type "his". Staggering really.

But I digress. Watts will be a gem of a footballer. If you can't see it now that's ok, but the player you witness today you won't recognise in 3-5 years time.

I'm more concerned by our skill level and woeful midfield. More than ever I think we need 2 mids with whatever top 4 picks we receive at year's end. I've got no problem with Butcher if 'he's' (or should I say "his" so that some understand me) a clear standout, as top quality kpps are as rare as hen's teeth, but if there's any doubt I'd go with a mid to compliment Scully. I think we have the worst midfield I've ever seen.

I thought Moloney was great, Sylvia was good, and the rest, including ruck, were NQR.

Just wondering if the scores of 'supporters' that advocate losing who seemed to have swamped Demonland are satisfied with the way we lost last night? Did it fulfill your request for a loss in the appropriate way? Were you comforted by the fact that the figures are looking good? Because to me it feels awful and Picks One and Two aren't going to fix what we saw last night.

If your satisfied by our club losing games then don't complain how they lose them.

We are not setting up for the future right now. We are tearing the hearts out of our young fellas and I feel empty.

If you advocate tanking, you are a tanker.

I think you mean complement!

Wow Warren !

You must have creamed your dacks when you spotted this. One of your better posts. No, in fact, your best post.

Now, back under that rock.

Just wondering if the scores of 'supporters' that advocate losing who seemed to have swamped Demonland are satisfied with the way we lost last night? Did it fulfill your request for a loss in the appropriate way? Were you comforted by the fact that the figures are looking good? Because to me it feels awful and Picks One and Two aren't going to fix what we saw last night.

If your satisfied by our club losing games then don't complain how they lose them.

We are not setting up for the future right now. We are tearing the hearts out of our young fellas and I feel empty.

If you advocate tanking, you are a tanker.

Anyone who loves the club would feel sick by such an insipid performance. That said, I'm going to be patient this year. What other choices are there ? We need stars and we need them quickly. Our best chance of procuring stars is through the pointy end of the draft. The expectation of getting a couple of top 3 picks helps keep morale up. It's not the issue of tanking, it's the issue of getting better. And we know what will help us get better.

So patience is required in 09. But it will be a different story in 2010. I will be out of patience next year if we don't see some measurable improvement.

Wow Warren !

You must have creamed your dacks when you spotted this. One of your better posts. No, in fact, your best post.

Now, back under that rock.

Yes, how dare he pick up a spelling error

So patience is required in 09. But it will be a different story in 2010. I will be out of patience next year if we don't see some measurable improvement.

I agree entirely, especially with game day tactics and structures.

Yes, how dare he pick up a spelling error

How come I know what you're going to post before you do ?

You're predictably boring these days. Why don't you surprise me and share some really good footy insight ?

waiting....

How come I know what you're going to post before you do ?

You're predictably boring these days. Why don't you surprise me and share some really good footy insight ?

waiting....

If it's so obvious then you really need to think before you post. By the way, you never did answer my question in the other thread.

So how does it taste?

You also can't touch the senior coach either.

We're 4-30 since rd 1 2008 and they'll tell you that things are going rosy under Bailey.

The club is all talk at the moment. I think the MFC website should ban player interviews during the week outlining how they're going to make amends and are sick of honourable losses - it's all fluff.

thanks mate, i agree totally, u cant touch JW, Bailey and god forbid Brock on this site. does my head in, thought this was a forum to express your views.

good point powell

If it's so obvious then you really need to think before you post. By the way, you never did answer my question in the other thread.

So how does it taste?

A little Asian.

A little Asian.

You have little asian's in your bath water? People can get arrested for that sort of thing, now I know what type of person you are.