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i just voted for the legend, he should be prime minister.

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It's a strange list actually. I don't know how they define "tough".

Ditterich and Lockett - I don't think of them as tough. They tended to dish out the pain rather than put themselves in a position to be hurt.

Flower - Courageous, but not necessarily tough.

Ablett, Brereton, Carey, Archer and Matthews were all tough primarily because of their physique.

Tuddenham - Probably the toughest on the list.

Pound for pound, the toughest player I've seen is Ken Hunter.

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I agree with HT and Mo on their thoughts.

How do you define tough? I certainly dont rank thuggery as being tough.

I actually thought Lawrie Fowler was tough when he played for MFC


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Wrecker? Ok, Ok!

Perhaps toughest to play against? I'm at a loss...oh wait, it's a Herald Sun poll...

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It's a strange list actually. I don't know how they define "tough".

Ditterich and Lockett - I don't think of them as tough. They tended to dish out the pain rather than put themselves in a position to be hurt.

Flower - Courageous, but not necessarily tough.

Ablett, Brereton, Carey, Archer and Matthews were all tough primarily because of their physique.

Tuddenham - Probably the toughest on the list.

Pound for pound, the toughest player I've seen is Ken Hunter.

Leigh Colbert?

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It's a strange list actually. I don't know how they define "tough".

Ditterich and Lockett - I don't think of them as tough. They tended to dish out the pain rather than put themselves in a position to be hurt.

Flower - Courageous, but not necessarily tough.

Ablett, Brereton, Carey, Archer and Matthews were all tough primarily because of their physique.

Tuddenham - Probably the toughest on the list.

Pound for pound, the toughest player I've seen is Ken Hunter.

I remember watching Locket just choking blokes and ragdolling them silly and cheap shotting Caven at the SCG but don't think of him as tough.

Didn't see Dittch at all besides the glorious 80's videos.

Albett was a cheap pr! ck too, I remember him running through blokes backs more than anything else.

Dermie and Arch for mine. Dippa was a tough bugger. I used to play in a yearly charity event for Asthma charity and Dippa joined in each year. Ten pin bowling, 9 holes of golf followed by a knock out tennis tournie. The footy would come out during the tennis and Dippa to this day still smashes the biggest blokes we put up against him, his dislocated a finger one year, he popped it back in and kept going not a worry in the world.

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I dont consider guys who played like thugs tough at all

Unfortunatley these are the ones that will get the votes

Toughest and most courageous demons i have seen were Ridley , Flower and Barassi

From other sides Ken Hunter (Carlton) Francis Bourke (Richmond) and Bob Skilton (South Melb) were stand outs

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This is just dumb,

1) why is Robbie Flower there?

2) best EVER - ok, it goes back to Carl Ditterich, there's 110 years of footy before that. Oh, and Ron a bit earlier, but he wasn't the toughest of his era. Mr Football was tougher wasn't he?

That's like celebrating 150 years of football and only including modern footballers in your legends of the club.

Ask Norm Smith - he'll tell you Captain Blood.

Ask any 1920 footballer - they'll tell you modern (last 30 years) are all weak.

So yeah, from that list, its got to be Lethal, the other 'toughs' were mainly snipers and thugs.

But go and give us a properly researched list.

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It's a strange list actually. I don't know how they define "tough".

Ditterich and Lockett - I don't think of them as tough. They tended to dish out the pain rather than put themselves in a position to be hurt.

Flower - Courageous, but not necessarily tough.

Ablett, Brereton, Carey, Archer and Matthews were all tough primarily because of their physique.

Tuddenham - Probably the toughest on the list.

Pound for pound, the toughest player I've seen is Ken Hunter.

Pity his son wasnt as tough or as good.

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I think the list is VERY incomplete

Players i remember being on the WILD side

Mopsy Fraser , Delicate Des Dickson , Robert Muir , Robert Dipperdemenico , Ian Shelton , Jim Odea , Phil Carman , Peter Crackers Keenan , David Rhys Jones , Mal Brown , Gary Mcintosh (Sth Aust) Don Scott , Ron Andrews , Gary Hocking , Sam Kekovich etc

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Dermie and Arch for mine. Dippa was a tough bugger. I used to play in a yearly charity event for Asthma charity and Dippa joined in each year. Ten pin bowling, 9 holes of golf followed by a knock out tennis tournie. The footy would come out during the tennis and Dippa to this day still smashes the biggest blokes we put up against him, his dislocated a finger one year, he popped it back in and kept going not a worry in the world.

Don't get me wrong, I actually know Uncle Dip Dip and he is tough as nails... but i dislocate my finger and pop it back in & keep going a couple of times a year, often at training. Its nothing special.

Even Tadhg Kenelly used to pop his shoulder back in a couple of times a game, which I rate a bit higher.

Now playing a grand final out with broken ribs on the other hand...

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He wouldn't be my vote for the toughest of all time (ridiculously difficult question btw), but in recent times, I think Jason Porplyzia would be right up there.

His efforts last year playing with a shoulder that would dislocate every 5 minutes was an outstanding demonstration of toughness over an extended period.


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I agree with HT and Mo on their thoughts.

How do you define tough? I certainly dont rank thuggery as being tough.

I actually thought Lawrie Fowler was tough when he played for MFC

Rod 'balls' Grinter was a tough man

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He wouldn't be my vote for the toughest of all time (ridiculously difficult question btw), but in recent times, I think Jason Porplyzia would be right up there.

His efforts last year playing with a shoulder that would dislocate every 5 minutes was an outstanding demonstration of toughness over an extended period.

Yeah definitely.

Hodge's effort wasn't bad either.

A different sort of tough would be Lonergan (the Cat's one) and Petterd to come back from life threatening injuries

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I think the list is VERY incomplete

Players i remember being on the WILD side

Mopsy Fraser , Delicate Des Dickson , Robert Muir , Robert Dipperdemenico , Ian Shelton , Jim Odea , Phil Carman , Peter Crackers Keenan , David Rhys Jones , Mal Brown , Gary Mcintosh (Sth Aust) Don Scott , Ron Andrews , Gary Hocking , Sam Kekovich etc

"Delicate" Des Dickson. Now there is a name to remember!! He would not not last the opening bounce today! The First wave of Kennedy's Comando's..

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I dont consider guys who played like thugs tough at all

Unfortunatley these are the ones that will get the votes

Toughest and most courageous demons i have seen were Ridley , Flower and Barassi

From other sides Ken Hunter (Carlton) Francis Bourke (Richmond) and Bob Skilton (South Melb) were stand outs

Alan Jarrott was pretty tough. Remember him pumping fists into Leigh Matthews one day for cheap shotting Peter Giles.

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