Ditto Titan, ditto. Although, after every saints goal I saw, I said something about collingwood...it might have been directions regarding where they might go and what they might do when they reached their destination.

Found myself in the unusual situation of cheering Milne's goals - needed a wash after that.

It was Melbourne Grammar & Scotch College.

As for the formation of the VFL, several clubs were involved with starting the competition.

havent we all already had this argument?

yes, tom wills invented the game and melbourne grammar and st kilda grammar played the first game of football but "it was not recorded" and a month later

"melbourne grammar and scotch college played the first recorded game of football as we know it today. The game took five weeks, over three saturdays.... etc ect"

then the mcc decided to make a team and formed their team called the Melbourne Football Club who got togethor, clarrified and then wrote the official rules...

then geelong was formed i think a year later...

eventually, some time later, there were enough teams to form a league and colling#$%@ were one of these teams

so yes, there would be no collingwood without the MCC/MFC creating their own club and evolutionising the game

and yes, melbourne is older and have one more premierships in the last 50 years

and yes, old melbournians are better than old xaverians

He's saying Collingwood were one of the formation clubs of the VFL, which is correct

All that said, you have to admire what Mick Malthouse and his team achieved this year under adversity. Their injuries and losses through suspension affected them greatly towards the end of the year but they still managed to win a final interstate and gave their supporters a lot of heart.

And the guard of honour for Robert Harvey indicated a bit of class that you certainly wouldn't get from the gunifs at Carton.

PS: still enjoyed St. Kilda beating the living suitcases out of them last night though!

Im sorry WJ..Im a Demon..and will never ADMIRE anything Collingwood !!

What I will do however is acknowledge things they do well !! But admire ??? no no no no NO !!

All that said, you have to admire what Mick Malthouse and his team achieved this year under adversity. Their injuries and losses through suspension affected them greatly towards the end of the year but they still managed to win a final interstate and gave their supporters a lot of heart.

Got to agree with you WJ. The biggest thing of all for me is Collingwood and Geelong are great at developing young kids who might not have been chosen early in the draft. Their development and teaching of the kids is admirable to say the least. It is something the Mfc should aspire to in that regard.

I get almost as much joy watching Joffa`s face during a Collingwood pasting as I do a Melbourne win!

Wasn't that Cutaway Shot of Joffa in the Last Q just pure Gold!! But i did admire the way the players gave Robert Harvey the Guard of Honour, after a loss that took some courage. Collingwood losses i do love such things!

Joffa's always having a go at the Dee's. Always great to see him with that whinging little cry baby face after a loss

havent we all already had this argument?

yes, tom wills invented the game and melbourne grammar and st kilda grammar played the first game of football but "it was not recorded"

and yes, old melbournians are better than old xaverians

According to a librarian at the MCC there are records at Melbourne Grammar of this game.

So, Anglican Catholics are better than the Roman variety? (Don't tell Jimmy)!!!!!!!

All that said, you have to admire what Mick Malthouse and his team achieved this year under adversity. Their injuries and losses through suspension affected them greatly towards the end of the year but they still managed to win a final interstate and gave their supporters a lot of heart.

And the guard of honour for Robert Harvey indicated a bit of class that you certainly wouldn't get from the gunifs at Carton.

PS: still enjoyed St. Kilda beating the living suitcases out of them last night though!

Totally agree Jack.

Hate the Pies. But over the years its a toxic mix of loathing and a few nods of respect.

As for Carlton.....there could be kids watching.

Anglican Catholic?

Anglican Catholic?

God fearing atheist!

Approaching my 50th birthday, my sage realisation is that Collingwood bothers me little compared w. the hostility I have for Carlton. I enjoy Mick's whingeing (last weekend about having to travel!!) & their lack of reward for all the $$$ they throw around. On the other hand, Carlton proving that cheats do prosper ...

The Didak interview by Hutchy on The Footy Show just proved to me Didak is a spud.

Although Heath Shaw's name was never mentioned by Hutchy, Didak had the need to indicate 'we felt this way', 'Heath and I thought', 'we knew we had done the wrong thing', etc, etc.

At no stage did he take personal and singular responsibility for anything.

This turkey cannot take on board any personal responsibility for his own behaviour.

Pi$$ him off !!!

Approaching my 50th birthday, my sage realisation is that Collingwood bothers me little compared w. the hostility I have for Carlton. I enjoy Mick's whingeing (last weekend about having to travel!!) & their lack of reward for all the $$$ they throw around. On the other hand, Carlton proving that cheats do prosper ...

I feel exactly the Same about Carlton-They have cheated the system since 1965 (although back then the rules were very fimsy) But But look at the Club now-Full of first Draft Picks!! Rewarded for Cheating. Because of the Cardboard King they now call themselves The "Green" Club!!! Giving Dodgy Jobs to Chris Judd at Visy...Wake up AFL

I am really hoping Carlton Fxck up again with the salary Cap. History says they will as that club feeds on Greed ragardless of the consequences. Let us watch carefully........

- We travel well

- We have more premierships and stopped your run of 5 straight flags

These Two Points re Collingwood make me Laugh........How can they be sure they travel well when they don't go anywhere

and Collingwood stopped our run of SIX (6) Flags-count them Thru mostly deeds of thuggery as they were well known in those days of one umpire.

Six of our Flags were won against your mob and lets hope we can win a few more before i am gone!!

Pretty naive to say Collingwood don't travel well.

Granted they travel less, but that is a different argument

Pretty naive to say Collingwood don't travel well.

Granted they travel less, but that is a different argument

They won just over half their interstate games. For a club that beat just over half their opponents, that's probably what would be expected.

Since 2000, their interstate winning percentage is 47.4%.

Now the same stat gives Geelong playing 50 more games than everyone else away from home, so i assume that includes games played at the cattery, but regardless it places them as the second best Victorian team interstate and third best in the comp.

Best interstate team at AAMI in that period, 9th in AFL at Subi (5th Victorian, winning their next game there would put them 3rd [ad yes they're the only team to play there less than 10 times this decade), 1 for 1 at the SCG, 4 from 6 at Telstra Stadium putting them second on percentage there behind us (and you can't whinge that "sydney don't like that ground", they're 17 from 26 there and without playing Collingwood there would be 15-5) and they've struggled at the GABBA.

Don't like defending them, but tough to argue they don't play pretty well interstate, especially when compared to Victorian teams.

The amount they play there, as i said, is another argument

Pretty naive to say Collingwood don't travel well.

Granted they travel less, but that is a different argument

I know there record is not too bad, But they travel such a small amount any win puts the ratio up by about 5% !! Melbourne on the other hand at this point in time Travel appallingly. I remember when the interstate sides first came in to the comp. We travelled pretty well. John Northey got us pumped pretty well

Since 2000, their interstate winning percentage is 47.4%.

Now the same stat gives Geelong playing 50 more games than everyone else away from home, so i assume that includes games played at the cattery, but regardless it places them as the second best Victorian team interstate and third best in the comp.

Best interstate team at AAMI in that period, 9th in AFL at Subi (5th Victorian, winning their next game there would put them 3rd [ad yes they're the only team to play there less than 10 times this decade), 1 for 1 at the SCG, 4 from 6 at Telstra Stadium putting them second on percentage there behind us (and you can't whinge that "sydney don't like that ground", they're 17 from 26 there and without playing Collingwood there would be 15-5) and they've struggled at the GABBA.

Don't like defending them, but tough to argue they don't play pretty well interstate, especially when compared to Victorian teams.

The amount they play there, as i said, is another argument

Well researched post, 45. But I think that stat's a little exaggerated by the fact that the Pies seem to have a good match-up vs the Swans. Having said that, I can't argue with their extended record interstate. Do you think they do well because of their larger supporter base interstate?

Collingwood were the 1st club to go through undefeated interstate in a YR (92', Beat Sydney, WC, ADL & Brisbane Interstate), did it again in 01 (Beat Fremantle, ADL, Port & North Interstate) & became the only Victorian club to win 3 Finals interstate (02 V Port, 07 V WC & 08 V ADL interstate).

The AFL is actually penalizing Collingwood by not allocating more games interstate.

Collingwood were the 1st club to go through undefeated interstate in a YR (92', Beat Sydney, WC, ADL & Brisbane Interstate), did it again in 01 (Beat Fremantle, ADL, Port & North Interstate) & became the only Victorian club to win 3 Finals interstate (02 V Port, 07 V WC & 08 V ADL interstate).

The AFL is actually penalizing Collingwood by not allocating more games interstate.

haha, woe is collingwood

The AFL is actually penalizing Collingwood by not allocating more games interstate.

Haha. Someone should let Malthouse know, so he can wheel it out at the next press conference following a Victorian loss.

Collingwood were the 1st club to go through undefeated interstate in a YR (92', Beat Sydney, WC, ADL & Brisbane Interstate), did it again in 01 (Beat Fremantle, ADL, Port & North Interstate) & became the only Victorian club to win 3 Finals interstate (02 V Port, 07 V WC & 08 V ADL interstate).

The AFL is actually penalizing Collingwood by not allocating more games interstate.

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