spirit of norm smith

Bump. Just for some to look at more closely.

You need to read the post again. And perhaps look closer.

Some names around 18,19 which end up as picks 24,25 most likely. Brayden Cook, Bailey Laurie, Isaiah Winder, Caleb Poulter.

Agree. He’s a very good player. I had him as the Tigers pick in my phantom draft. See 2020 draft prospects thread. Solid build. Evasive. Good skills. Smart. Good goalkicker. Perfect half forward who could also go into the midfield in a few years.

Yes he did have some tricks but appears his injury concerns are the problem. It’s a no.

Tmc probably will be one of the most expensive “Plan B” players in the league. Plan B for full back behind May. Plan B behind Brown, Jacko and Weid for a key forward post. Plan B behind Maxy to support Jackson.

Not sure whether we will entertain a Delisted Free Agent pick. None so far really standout. Brandon Matera? Mason Wood? Marley Williams? Hardly showed the intensity in their games to warrant another chance despite their talent. Dees might use 18,19,28 and 50 in the Draft and then add a further rookie pick 10. (get list to 44).

Isaiah Winder. He’s one I’d really like to see in Demons colours in 2020. I’m thinking he is one that alongside Pickett would be very very dangerous across our forward line. He’s a classy midfielder who across half forward would be Tim Kelly like.

Six of the top 20 are NGA, zone or academy picks. Pick 18 is effectively pick #24 imv. Macrae and Carroll will be gone. Brayden Cook is the most likely. This is in my 2020 phantom. Don’t forget Isaiah Winder (Peel Thunder) as the one who we will be tempted to draft. He’s very classy and ready to play imo in 2021 as a dangerous half forward.

A “6am” early call now trade week is over and picks more organized. Top 30 and likely bids. 1. Crows Logan McDonald 2. Kangas * bid Jamara Ugle-Hagan matched by Dogs Kangas - Elijah Hollands 3. Sydney - Will Phillips 4. Hawks - Riley Tilthorpe 5. Suns - Tanner Bruhn 6. Ess * bid Braeden Campbell matched by Swans Ess - Denver Grainger-Barass 7. Ess - Finlay Macrae 8. Ess - Oliver Henry 9. Crows * bid. Lachlan Jones matched by Port. Crows - Heath Chapman 10. GWS - Zane Trew 11. Kangas - Jack Carroll 12. Freo - Nathan O’Driscoll 13. GWS * bid Errol Gulden matched by Swans GWS - Kaine Baldwin 14- Pies. Archie Perkins 15. GWS - Zach Reid 16. Pies - Nik Cox 17. Tigers * bid Reef McInnes matched by Pies Tigers - Bailey Laurie 18. Dees - Brayden Cook 19. Dees * bid Brandon Walker matched by Freo Dees - Caleb Poulter 20. GWS Eddie Ford 21. Saints - Sam Berry ROUND TWO 22. Crows - Tom Powell 23. Crows - Zac Dumesny 24. Hawks * bid Joel Western matched by Freo Hawks - Oliver Davies 25. Lions - Jye Sinderberry 26. Dogs used points 27. Suns * bid Conor Downie matched by Hawks Suns -Sam Collins 28. Dees - Nick Stevens (I’d probably be tempted to call Isaiah Winder here though if available. His raw talent and pace make him a steal) (Angwin and Ginnivan other chances here) 29. GWS. * bid Saxon Crozier matched by Lions GWS - Isaiah Winder 30. Kangas. Xavier Maher Cook, Poulter & Stevens represent 3 very skilled midfielders. Cook fits wing/HFF, Poulter fits RR/hbf, Stevens fits HBF /wing. Though Winder as a mid/HFF and senior footy experience is still a likely pickup.

We did excellent business to get Preuss for pick 31 and then effectively give that to Kangas for Brown. You were close with your predictions.

Has the talent but just seemed not intense enough. I think the crows were very disappointed with his development given he had good pace and endurance. He showed flashes of talent and fitted in as a goalkicking half forward. Probably his injury set him back and his ruptured Achilles in June of this season meant he was definitely to get delisted. It’s a “no way” from me.

It’s actually interesting to see the players who didn’t get drafted for a few years and then finally got picked up 3-4 years later. Sam Mitchell, Michael Barlow, Ben Brown, Kane Lambert, Isaac Smith, Michael Gibbons, Brodie Mihocek, Luke Ryan, Bailey Fritsch, Adam Saad, Sam Collins , Mitch Hannan. Jake Riccardi was the obvious 2019 standout and he’s already shown his talent. There’s plenty of talent still coming through that missed the traditional draft me at 18 pathway.

Yes I went through the 1st round and there is at least 5 or maybe 6 players who should have a bid on them by the time it gets to picks 18,19. That means we are effectively picks 24,25. I would definitely look to bid on Brandon Walker with our first pick. We’d force Freo to match it. They will most likely but if they didn’t, he’d be a great get.

I’d like to the Dees use our 3rd round pick (pick 50 ish) on a mature type player around the age range 20-23 who might be able to step up in 2021 straight away. I’d see Sam Fisher, Angus Baker, Rhyan Mansell or Jacob Wehr as that type of player. Mansell in particular would be a very good drafted after an excellent 2020 in the SANFL.

Summed it up. Phillips was the one that got away. Pick 65!! The bargain buy of the draft by the Hawks.

Wtf

Yes Brayden Cook should be available and we’d be super keen to select him. Would be a very handy goalkicking wingman with good pace, endurance and skill. ✅✅✅

2021 final 8 Tigers ✅ Cats ✅ Power ✅ Lions ✅ Saints ✅ Pies ❌ Bulldogs ✅ Eagles ✅ Pies finished 8th and lose players. Other clubs get stronger or (tigers) have the exuding players and system to still be very successful. Who could come in? Dees or Blues. Blues get Williams and Saad who will add tremendous pace, and their youngsters get better. Many pundits will have the Blues into the 8 in 2021.

I think Will Phillips goes to Sydney. That will love him there and replaces Josh Kennedy (who will probably hang up his boots after 2021). Assume Bruhn goes to Suns to complete their AAA midfield for the next 10 years. Bombers will try to grab Grainger-Baras (Hurley and Hooker on the descent) Macrae and Henry.

Possible but unlikely. But I do hope as any of these 3 are perfect for the Dees. I have the Bombers getting Macrae at 8, Kangas getting Carroll at 11 and Pies stealing Perkins at 14. I hope a team further screws up the Pies by nominating Reef Mcinnes in the top 12-13 picks prior to their first pick. Screw them.

Yes some interesting names here from Knightmare. I’m looking through the draft picks and likely options. I have considered we need runners. Midfielder types with good skills (essential), pace and endurance. I hope JT agrees. To play running wing or half back roles. I assume players, that have very good skill with pace, like Finley Macrae, Jack Carroll and Archie Perkins will all be gone (as I have them picked through by Pies pick 14). I’d even nominate Brandon Walker under Freo NGA and get them to have to match it I have looked at picks 18,19 - Brayden Cook SA-Sth Adel, wing, half forward - Caleb Poulter, SA-WWT , ruckrover, halfback At pick 28, similar types are - Ryan Angwin Gippsland power, wing - Nick Stevens Ballarat Rebels, half back - Jack Ginnivan, Bendigo half forward I can give further Bio details later once we have picks locked in closer to the draft. Thanks to JM pick swaps, we have good options still despite not quite being into real top 20 group given nga, zones & father son compo etc etc

Agree. Lost 3 players who were seriously overpaid for what they actually contributed. Treloar on $750k Phillips on $600k Stephenson on $350k. Really. Screw them.

8/10 score. Getting good value pick 31 for Preuss ✅ Getting Ben Brown for equivalent mid 2nd round ✅ ✅ trade pick swaps to get 18 & 19 & kept 28 ❌ Witherden - we needed a small skilled defender to go alongside May and Lever ❌ missed the Pies fire sale. Phillips was a good fit and ultimately was available. ❌ lost first round 2021 pick ?kept Tmcd on serious $$ but unsure where he fits in our best team. Probably as an emergency!

Ready to go now. JT hopefully has been in Mahoney’s ear about some diamonds in this draft. Jack Carroll, Finley Macrae and Caleb Poulter all in the frame now. Young midfield runners to compliment our midfield bulls.