spirit of norm smith

FFS. After three premierships in the last 4 years, I’ve grown to really hate the Tigers. I hate every other club, just some like the Pies, Eagles, Bombers and now Tigers are really hated. ? Mansell is a skilled, fast, wing/half back runner who showed in the SANFL that he also has the 2nd efforts and intensity to be in the AFL system. It’d be great for Mark Williams or Tim Lamb to get his number and give him a call to see if he would consider a spot with the Dees. Tigers already have too many good players. They need to opt out for a while.

Great to see Dees giving Kobe the opportunity with the group. It would be a great story for the Dees if he could make it. The Wiz is one of my favourite players ever. Such a talent and so entertaining.

@goodoil is spot on with his assessment of these youngsters. Ryan Sparkes was probably the one youngster from the 2019 U18s season (Gippsland Power) who I thought was a late pick or rookie chance but missed out in the 2019 draft. It would have been good to see him develop at Casey as he has good skills and run. I’d be interested to see if Casey can convince Tim Smith to pull on the boots in 2021. He was a heart and soul player like Jimmy Munro at Casey and was unlucky with injuries in his AFL days.

I think Joeboy would definitely sum up Fraser Rosman in 3 words. Speed, endurance, size. Can’t wait to see how he develops and could play back or forward or on probably even fit in on the wing. Mark Williams will work with this kid a lot in 2021.

Agree. Rosman is a huge athlete. Pace. Endurance. Size. Can’t wait to see how he develops. Bowey and Laurie. I think JT went for the most skilful kids available at our picks. Perhaps they are the two most skilled in the draft. Good signs.

Agree Ben Brown should try to keep 50. Brett Lovett could present it. then 16 - Bowey. Jack Grimes to present 17- Laurie. Brett Lovett to present. 19- vacant 21- Rosman. Cameron Pedersen to present. 28- added player if taken 42- added player if taken

Yes I think Stoddart showed his capabilities at AFL level and that he might be able to get another chance. Carlton VFL obviously presents an opportunity for him.

Oscar might still get picked up as a delisted free agent. He’s better than most of the players in the delisted group. I thought the Crows might give him a second chance given they lost Hartigan.

This is the new skill of the recruitment team. I’m expected an actuarial department to be added.

I’d invite Riley Stoddart 21yo(ex Swans) , Jackson Callow 18yo (TAS) Ryhan Mansell 20yo (TAS/SA Eagles) and Kurt Mutimer 23yo (ex WC Eagles) as train on players over the summer. All are good enough to be on AFL lists imv. Great that Mark Williams is on board. I’m sure he has a few young hungry footballers in mind too. Potential for Dees to offer a place and add under the SSP program.

Bowey straight into the team in the wing!! That’s “Optimistic or misti-optic” as Dennis Cometti would say !!! I think he will have a development year and more likely Laurie will get a game in the seniors mid-late in 2021. But given the glaring gap in our team for a quality wingman opposite Langdon, you might be right.

Thanks Demonland for the updates. I was unavailable so the information on this thread was great.

Lockhart May Lever Salem Tomlinson Hibberd Langdon Viney. Brayshaw Melksham Weid Harmes Pickett. B-Brown Fritsch Gawn Petracca Oliver Jackson. Rivers. Hunt. Vandenburg depth. Tmcd ANB Sparrow Spargo J-smith Bedford Jetta Jones Hore Petty Baker M-Brown (r) development Bowey Laurie Rosman development rookies Chandler Jordan Nietschke Bradtke That’s 41? (2 short??)

Again the question ... what spots do we have left on the list? One primary list spot and one rookie list spot??

Fair call. Rosman does have speed and kicking style like Smith but better in the air. That’s a high bar to set to compare like Goodes.

Thanks @goodoil I saw Patrick Walker went effective #1 in rookie draft. His kicking skills and run out of defence are elite. I agree he would need to get physically stronger to defend in AFL but that’s true for 95% of all 18 year olds. Most need that one or two summers in the gym.

It seems like none of the recruiters know that Tasmania exists. Ben Brown, Brodie Mihocek, Jeremy Howe, Jay Lockhart and probably a few more that I missed have had to play in state leagues for a few years to get drafted in. This year Oliver Davis, Jackson Callow, Sam Collins and Patrick Walker all presented as good youngsters. They were able to play TSL games and excelled against open age players. Whilst the TSL is not the strongest comp, I think clubs will look to rookie a few of these blokes. Davis and Callow were potential top 30 picks so they may still get a rookie spot but spots are tight. Callow is a strong marking forward who kicks goals. The two youngsters I’d look at are Patrick Walker - wing/half back. He meets JT’s requirements of good ball user, creative, good decision maker. Excellent skills, good runner and not unlike Trent Rivers. His kicking efficiency is elite. Rhyan Mansell (played at Woodville West Torrens in 2020). He’s now 20 after being previously overlooked in the draft. Solid year for the SA premiership team across wing and half back. Has very good pace. Excellent skills. I like his run and carry and his secondary run after disposing of the footy to create more options. If he’s not rookied, he would be a good player for the “train-on” summer invite.

Jake Bowey. Small forward/mid. Skilled. Evasive. Plays like Shai Bolton. Bailey Laurie. Small half forward/mid. Smart. Skilled. Plays like Brent Daniels. Fraser Rosman. Wing/half forward. Athlete. Quick. Xfactor. Plays like Isaac Smith.

Yes that’s why we hate them. Especially grabbing Macrae. Was hoping he might slide to us.

Knightmare must have fallen asleep at the end. Yes Isiah Winder stays in WA at the Eagles. I think the brackets are his prediction at where they would be drafted.

With Bowey, Laurie and Rosman added thats means we have 36 primary and 5 rookie (incl Bradtke as a cat B). Further additions? 1 on primary list and 1 on rookie list??

Glad to see Wehr get drafted to the Giants. He improved year on year at SA Eagles with his elite skills being recognised.

Ford and Winder now gone. Thought we might have stole one with our last pick.

It’s a lottery.

Yes. Two small skilled forwards.