Sydee

What ???? just anyone - you do know that most of them aren't much chop don't you

Very glad you are not negotiating on our behalf - that would be ridiculous and totally inconsistent with recent precedents

I would mark that down as a major fail if that's what we receive

Now your talking - what a character

Is that a contradiction or am I just fatigued with this whole thread ?

http://websites.sportstg.com/team_info.cgi?action=PSTATS&pID=196455977&client=1-118-187079-477472-26138796 These are his 2018 stats at VFL level - reasonable number of hit outs but rarely gets a mention in the best players and imo doesn't take enough contested marks for someone his size If you look at his kicking efficiency I'd say that's one of the biggest reasons he didn't play in the 1's this year Big, big punt if you ask me offering 4 years

We can all have opinions - watch this space if no trade happens and he does not sign an extension of contract. It will not be me starting the discussion but I am sure his level of commitment will be questioned - particularly if he plays a stinker or two and gets a bit grumpy - has happened before btw

Tend to agree and I will trust the FD to get this right but I have an awful feeling about this one - I fear his lowlights reel would extend well beyond the 17 seconds mark Has anyone watched much of him in the twos for North this year who could offer an assessment of his ability?

Not saying anything negative about Ben Long but that is a v v v big call - Whilst Jeff Garlett has had an underwhelming 2018 season he has an impressive record in the AFL having kicked over 300 goals

Maybe not directly but if a trade doesn't happen and he is not committed then the point/discussion becomes extremely valid

Personally if any of our players are not fully invested / committed to the MFC I'd prefer they played at Casey or went to the beach and let someone who is 100% committed run out onto the field particularly in a GF , Jesse Hogan included

With what ?????

Peter Bell insists that he stays as it makes him feel less self conscious about his lack of inches

If the only reason we are considering a trade for Hogan is to secure May I think there is a real limit to how long each side can wait it out for

The longer it drags on the less face there is to save I suspect which is unfortunate Personally I was looking forward to him sticking around and hoping the FD would experiment with him at CHB assuming TMac and the Weed are up and about

Are you suggesting Hogan can't make a decision as to whether he stays or accepts the offer from Fremantle ? Why would they go ahead and negotiate with Fremantle if they don't even know what his preference / willingness to leave is? That makes no sense to me - I think its far more likely that Fremantle and MFC are bickering on what picks they receive for Hogan /Neale etc. This is like most trade periods where there is so much talk and speculation with precious little happening until the 11th hour when everyone has to either [censored] or get off the pot

Glass half empty type

hmmm they beat us last time we played them from memory - oh dear the pain of it all

Thanks - possibly a bit more relevant

Wow that is very unfortunate

How does he go in a prelim Final ? We seem to be a bit light on for goers in that space atm

Its very simple Jordan Lewis should not be any different to any other player - if his form warrants selection he plays if not he shouldn't Pretty obvious and pretty fair I would have thought I would have thought overall his contribution to the success of the team this year was a net positive - lets see what he brings in the New Year

Actually our theoretical depth goes way beyond that for possible back six candidates (can you have too much? should we look to bolster the midfield / outside runners rather than continuing to load up in defense?) - B Fritsch - TMac if Hogan stays and Weed is going ok - J Smith - J Hunt - H Petty (looks a way off but who knows) - J Wagner

Assuming May is a starter then the 4 bolded above would be locked in (possibly Salem as well) That would leave 4 fighting for a single spot - something has to give

Hopefully our team of medical and other experts has determined he has a heart as big as Phar Lap's and mixes iron filings in with his Nutragrain each morning for breaky