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I am going against my habitual doubts and suggesting it could be a backline that other teams supporters remember in 5 years time!

Boom boom I won't even correct it

Jetty was my favourite when he had to bash his body to pieces going 3rd in against the big forwards who were likely to kick 10 against Oscar. It's a pity his day has passed. I figure Hibberd won't be part of the back 6 for the ages either. Hunt can have a number of roles ,given he is one of the few genuine quicks in the 22. But there is still room for a long term champion lock down back.

Nah, a MFC Captain should have a monocle and moustache. Lever is the man for the job.

Hunt isn't in that stratosphere. They could that good for a threepeat. We've already forgotten Jetta? I don't know about Bowey yet

He has come good after a shake start. May,Lever,Rivers , Petty ,Salem..just need one more with run and with a bit of muscle on Trent and its a backline we will remember.

That's a job for RDB and it will likely be the last chance for him as well so we better win. Maybe Jones could walk him out to the dais

I wouldn't like to meet Richmond or Sydney in week one,even if I think they'd be long shots to go all the way

Not half as good a story as Nathan Jone's though.

There's always BT ,he says he's an expert

Yeah, but Harmes( and Melksham) have demonstrated their worth over the journey. How long ago is it ,if ever,that Vanders has done so? Harmes and Melksham don't get in the way if they are playing a bad game. VDB doesn't have a good game any more if he ever did..His body has never let him. I only mentioned Jones , who I acknowledged was also off the pace to emphasise the futility of persevering with Vandenberg. Don't get me started on Weideman but Vander's aggression and Spargos game brain on Weids skills base would be an AFL grade player. Otherwise, if picked,they are the bottom 3 that defines the teams likelihood to win the flag Jones might be only best 24 but he's not an impediment the way VDB is .

When was the last time Vanders WAS great? He turns " run" into sludge and his disposal is 2 seasons old. But yeah ,Viney will come back in to run headlong onto ever pack he sees and Sparrow and Jordan are ahead of Jones.

Sparrow played last night

Fair dinkum Vanders is a lumbering liability and still has the skill and decision making deficit of the earlier Goodwin Demons iteration. Someone said yesterday the game has passed him by. I said the same thing about Jones after the Finals win at the G in ...( whenever it was;who can tell these days?) against Hawthorn ,but seriously does anyone not think he would be a better inclusion than the frustration that is Vanders.He can stop any fluid ball movement without even trying But Nathan Jones? A red hot go (firstly as the medical sub), he can kick a goal and he would give it full throttle like no other player on the list to get a shot at the flag in his last game. It wouldn't even be sentimental (unless he holds the Cup), just a smart move

I saw Jones having a long friendly exchange with Selwood post siren. You guys need to grow up

Ok on form in a team that's winning and with no one kicking the door down to get in he stays in indefinitel its amazing its even being spoken about. Last season and the one before he looked vulnerable because he needed to do more for a crepe team. He fits in just fine at present

I suspect you mean " are far less articulate "

A little kind but fair enough. I would say we look very vulnerable to good sides and still lack speed and basic ball skills. The " new " AFL game style doesn't suit us

I suspect plenty of the school boys on here didn't see Jones when he couldn't kick straight but still managed to carry the team essentially on his own, for what seemed like decades. Best 23 should earn that fella a game every week for a while longer and give the spuds around here some time to do some historical MFC research after they've done their homework and chores for mum. At least he can slot a goal now and get in a chain instead of trying to do too much, even if its in the twilight ( smile )

" some of" ." Most of" more likely If if wasn't for Hunt stinking up his run with his kicking we'd setting loose the hounds onto Brayshaw. Only Cam Bruce could kick more up and unders but he' d perfected the helicopter

Oliver " Falls over " much Spargo can he smile? TMac 1 1/2 good seasons

Its remarkable given the commitment and service Jones has given, carrying a crap team on his shoulders for about 15 years that he gets so little respect from the cheap seats on here. Obviously they want to get him to 300 games ( well duh) and he's only just best 22 but he's still going better relative to his best form than Neitz was when MFC gifted him his 300. Get rid of Spargo. Hes played his 2 good games for the year

Frisco just needs a normal hair cut so he won't be embarrassed that everyone is looking at him

He could start by tapping to a mfc player more often rather the technically " to advantage "

When he does get the ball he still mostly kicks it up in the air in the general direction that we are headed. That much hasn't changed and if he comes good then there will just be a lot more if that. Surely Jones is an automatic " in " (given theyre 2 zip ) for the next four or so games ; as he should be . He's still best 22 while Vanders, the only one who can miss a pass more often than Chunk, is best 30