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If they have a 10 minute interview/story with each nominee it will probably be midnight before we get a result!!

Very handsome duo!! Reckon Gus will be top 5!

This is a coaching movement rather than player but nowhere else to really put it. It seems that Little, Jobe Watson and others flew to Adelaide in Little's private jet to get Worsfold to coach Essendon! They broke their verbal and 'handshake' undertaking to not approach other club staff! Dubious ethics and gobsmacking arrogance! That club has learnt nothing from the drugs saga and ethical boundaries! Adelaide (rightly) not very happy as they are playing a final this weekend. Ess have apologised...too little too late...(no pun intended)

I posted there were 9 judges even when I listed all10 names. Miscounted! Sorry. My bad.

If we were to go after a 'free' FA, I would prefer it be Suckling from the Hawks. Apparently, he was prepared to go to Lions for $400k pa for 4 years. Could play a Howe/Watts role if they both leave.

Carlton may not get a Band 1 comp pick for Kreuzer: Mark Evans told 3AW on Tuesday evening that the Blues, who have the first pick in the draft, might miss out on pick two as compensation if Kreuzer went elsewhere on a deal similar to that signed by Melbourne's James Frawley last year...Evans said the formula used to calculate the worth of players was complex. While its good to see that Band 1 picks won't be handed out gratuitously this position is probably driven by the need for Brisbane to have access to pick 2 and get a potential gun. I wonder how the AFL 'value' that in their 'complex formula'... ...Got it! AFL definition of 'complex formula': 'secret and vaguely worded statement that allows us to do whatever we please and not have to explain it to anyone!!

9 judges each issuing 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 across 23 players. I don't know the probability of a tie but would think it very low. If its a tie then I would wonder if McLachlan and Evans have been pulling strings.

Both figures may be correct, rpfc. The $350k is the average figure the AFL used to cap the salary Sydney could pay a player being traded in. The diff $$ to the $265k average is likely 1st/2nd year and rookie player and as they are nearly 20% of players, skew the average down. For FA discussion, I felt the $350k was more relevant. The $500k came from a number of commentators who yes, were probably guessing as no-one knows the Frawley contract! Nonetheless, the whole FA system is very seriously flawed and it will only get worse as more players become FA's and if the AFLPA get the changes they want. The draft will be a joke!

Quite true 'Ricky'. Daniel Talia won it in 2012 as a full-back! So, yeah a key forward will win it at some stage! Nonetheless, would love Jesse win it! For him, the team and for supporters. Something more to cheer about!

This years 'high value' FA's that appear likely to attract 1st round draft picks: Kreuzer Leuenberger S Selwood Dangerfield Then add in 3 'Academy' players that look likely to go top 10-15. (Not sure if there are any Father/Son picks likely to go in the first round). Suddenly 'natural' 2nd rnd picks are seriously devalued: using Melbourne for example our 2nd round pick 24 will get us the 31st best player not the 24th!! Eddie is right: its time for a truly 'uncompromised' draft and scrap all those draft benefits. This years draft will show what a farce of a system the AFL has hatched.

A timely article on comp pics: http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-09-08/firstround-free-agency-picks-unfair-pelchen?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News A 1st round comp pick apparently is @ about $500k pa - not that far over the AFL average (around $350k). Clearly they have set the bar far too low! As more players come out of contract to FA status a club could get pick 1, 2, 3 if it loses several 'above average' FA's at once! Crazy stuff! Imagine if the AFLPA gets its way and lowers the FA service period to 6 years! The AFL will have comp picks all over the place and the 'natural' draft order will become meaningless. Yes, the AFL is in a bind! One of its own making, as usual! Scrap the whole FA thing and have players traded in the usual way. Eliminates distortion and unfairness across the whole player/trade/draft processes. Simple!

Not sure why you compared Garlett to Dawes as Garlett is streets ahead: Garlett: 22 games, 40 goals, average 1.8. Career average: 1.7 per game Dawes: 14 games, 11 goals, average 0.8 Career average: 1.1 per game souce: MFC website Jeff kicks 35-45 goals every year and there is no reason why he can't play 22 games for a few years yet. Dawes can't even get on the park let alone kick goals.

From the latest AFL Wikipedia page:- "At the end of the season, nine AFL personalities (typically administrators and All-Australian team selectors) vote for five of the nominees, with their top selections earning five votes, their second selection earning four votes, etc. The player who receives the most votes is the winner. The current selection panel includes AFL CEO, Gillon McLachlan, AFL Football Operations Manager, Mark Evans, AFL National Talent Manager, Kevin Sheehan, and former players, Kevin Bartlett, Luke Darcy, Danny Frawley, Glen Jakovich, Cameron Ling, Matthew Richardson, and Warren Tredrea.[4]." Not sure if that is the list this year tho'. I suspect there is a fair amount of 'guessing' as there is no way those guys watch the nominees play regularly. At best they will be given an info pack and vision of the top 5-10 (of the 23 nominees).

Last week on 360 Roos 'warned' supporters of an active trade period. At the time I thought/posted no need to 'warn' us, an active trade period is what we wanted! Maybe, dropping Watts was to prepare ('warn') his supporters for the trade and to soften the blow.

Even if that is so, it is poor form of the club to not let him play a final game for a club he has been extremely loyal to and has worked extremely hard with memberships and kids.

Etihad! Another voodoo bites the dust!!

Changing a couple of words (in red) makes it so easy to put the opposite view

I saw this in an AFL article: 'Eade said the club would focus on picking up the best available talent in the upcoming draft, while it would use the trade period to boost its playing stocks in the 22 to 27-year-old age bracket.' Suns appear to be losing Dixon so will need a 'tall'...could it be that Watts and Howe are heading towards the sun. Maybe in return for a player eg Prestia, O'Meera, Bennell? In an ideal world we get to keep our 1st round pick.

He probably thought he could cruise thru the year and big offers like GWS 2014 would just waltz thru his front door. A bit big headed, maybe? But he has been average this year so devalued himself badly. Also, his manager seems a bit of a muppet:- A month ago T Viney said we wouldn't pay more that we thought he was worth. Roos said we had started talks with Jeremy but then his manager says 'hang on a minute we are talking to others and will wait and see'. Now that Jeremy is being shopped around again my take is he didn't like the probable MFC offer and finds that other clubs have cooled their heels a bit. If he gave us the run-around he may well have done that to other clubs which would beg the question from them: how much do you actually want to play with this club? I just hope if Jeremy stays he lifts his game to be near the top 5 in the B&F. A reasonable expectation of a 100 game player coming into his prime.

If 'Mono' agrees we should close this thread. Then the mods can pin your excellent, longstanding thread

If Jack was to be traded, I would be extremely disappointed in the club not allowing him a final game in the red and blue. He has been a staunch and loyal player and works beyond the call of duty to meet kids, members etc. Deserves the game, if to be traded that is. No final game would leave a bitter taste as did the attempted trade of Jack T last year, which by all accounts he only reluctantly agreed to. So, don't think he is up for trade.

Could be simple explanations:- -Maybe they want to put Jesse on the front cover after he wins the Rising Star award! -Maybe Jack isn't playing for team balance reasons and so they can give the kids a go. It doesn't make sense to not play him just because there is a trade in the wings. On that basis why play Howe? He obviously didn't like the offer we made him and wants to go. I'm hoping and praying that Jack is a Dee for many years to come.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/luke-hodge-caught-drink-driving-20150904-gjfhxc.html Luke Hodge caught drink driving - registered 0.068 Not a good look a few weeks from finals. Is out suspended for this round. Sill, poor form on his part.

Like North, MFC followed the rules that were in place at the time. The AFL have now done a back flip and given their blessing to a club not doing their best to win. We won't get our $500k. But, I would like to see MFC publicly exonerated to clear the good name of Dean Bailey. Even posthumously, it would mean a lot to his family and friends.

The biggest beneficiary of North losing is Richmond! The ladder is (and unlikely to change): Richmond 121.4 56 Bulldogs 116.8 56 Adelaide 119.1 54 Nth Melbourne 109.1 52 North would need to win by a humongous amount of goals to get over Richmond's % which is unlikely so they will end up 8th either way. But if they (WB and Crows) win the ladder would be: Bulldogs 116.8 60 Adelaide 119.1 58 Richmond 121.4 56 Nth Melbourne 109.1 56 So the impact of North resting players and losing are: - Adelaide are denied a home final - Richmond get a home final and do not travel. - North play WB. That explains why Hardwick looked like a 'cheshire cat' when interviewed yesterday. Maybe North fancy their chances in a final vs Rich more than they do WB. That is the real benefit to North. I don't know who the AFL are kidding. While North won't improve their ladder position, resting players and losing definitely impacts the finals draw. For that reason their request should have been denied!!